HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-25-1995 Adopted CC Minutes DUSD SpMtgSPECIAL MEETING ~ July 25, 1995
A special meeting of the City Council of the City of Dublin was held on Tuesday, July 25,
1995, in the Council Chambers of the Dublin Civic Center. The meeting was a joint
meeting with the Dublin Unified School District Board of Trustees. The meeting was
called to order at 6:01 p.m., by Mayor Houston.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT REPRESENTING CITY:
Councilmembers Barnes, Burton, Howard, Moffatt and Mayor Houston.
REPRESENTING DUBLIN UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT:
Board Trustees Cobb-Adams, Kohnen, Ledahl and Patterson. Board Trustee Kamau
arrived at the meeting at 6:10 p.m. ABSENT: Board Trustee Meyer.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Houston led the Council~ Staff and those present in the pledge of allegiance to the
flag.
PROPOSED VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL COMMUNITY GYMNASIUM
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Mayor Houston explained that the purpose of this joint special meeting was for both
legislative bodies to discuss a proposal developed by the City/School District Liaison
Committee for a community gymnasium at Valley High School.
Parks & Community Services Director Lowart explained that as a result of past requests
from the community and the need to make revisions to the Agreement between the City
and the District regarding use of facilities, the City Council approved formation of a
Community Facilities Task Force (CFI'F) in February of 19~5. The purpose of the Task
Force was to study, report and make recommendations on community facility needs in
Dublin for both school and community use. Following a series of meetings,
recommendations were presented to the City Council/School Board Liaison Committee.
Ms. Lowart advised that the top priority of the Community Facilities Task Force was
construction of a community gymnasium to meet the growing needs of organized sports
leagues sponsored by the City as well as local community groups. Currently City and
community groups compete for gym space with school sponsored programs.
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Ms. Ix>wart stated the CFTF considered possible locations for an additional gym and
determined that the proposed multi-purpose room identified in the preliminary
masterplan for Valley High School could be enlarged to meet the needs of the
community. Since Valley High School seldom needs to utilize the gym after school, at
night or on weekends, the gym could be available for community use during the peak use
periods. To meet the needs of the community, the size of the proposed multi-purpose
room/gymnasium would be increased from 6,000 square feet to approximately 10,000
square feet, and would include bleacher seating for up to 400 and storage areas for both
school and City use. Also, it is proposed that the kitchen would be modified in order to
accommodate a concession area and that the restrooms would be enlarged to provide a
changing area.
Ms. Ix)wart stated the estimated capital cost for construction of the proposed gym and
related facilities is $2,080,000. The estimated annual cost for maintenance, utilities and
supervision of the gym and related facilities is $71,558. A detailed breakdown was
included in the Staff Report.
The City Council/School Board Liaison Committee has given conceptual approval for the
proposed community gym at Valley High School and has discussed potential terms for an
agreement between the City and the District.
District Responsibilities
1) District would fund 100% of capital construction costs
2) District would maintain building including interior and exterior surfaces,
electrical and mechanical systems, roof, plumbing, etc., at no cost to City
$) District would guarantee City/community use Monday-Friday from $:00 p.m. to
10:00 p.m. and Saturday/Sunday from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. District could
reserve facility for District related functions 6 times per year to be scheduled at the
beginning of each school year.
City Responsibilities
1) City would reimburse District for 100% of the annual operating costs
2) City would reimburse District for expenses related to the repair and maintenance
of gym furnishings and would reimburse District for any damages to the interior of
the facility incurred during the times of City/community use
$) City would schedule City/community use and provide qualified supervision during
times of City/community use at no cost to District
4) City would make facility available for District related functions 6 times per year
5) City would levy, collect and retain all facility use fees for City/community use of
the proposed community gymnasium (all fee schedules would be approved by
District)
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As discussed by the Liaison Committee, the terms of the proposed agreement would be for
a period of 10 years with an option to renew'the agreement for additional 5 year
increments. For the first 3 years of the agreement, an annual review would be
undertaken; after 3 years, a biennial review would be undertaken for the remainder of
the agreement.
In addition, the Liaison Committee discussed and recommended that the City make the
Dublin Swim Center available to the District from February through May of each year for
the purpose of conducting swim team programs, swimming instruction and other
appropriate aquatic programs at no cost to the District. The current Agreement provides
that the District will reimburse the City for 1/3 of the actual operating cost of the Swim
Center and 100% of the cost of supervision. Over the past 5 years, this has amounted to
approximately $6,250 per year. It should be noted that if DHS was not utilizing the
Swim Center during the spring months, the City would not need to open the facility until
Memorial Day weekend. Consequently, the actual cost to the City to open the Swim
Center for use by DHS during the months of February through May is approximately
$20,000.
Ms. Ix>wart distributed a CFTF roster and also a document "Timeline and Actions Related
to the Proposed Community Gymnasium at Valley High School".
In summary, Ms. Lowart stated the proposed community gym at Valley High School has
received the support of the Community Facilities Task Force, the City's Parks &
Community Services Commission and the City/District Liaison Committee. Like the
CFTF, the Parks & Community Services Commission also views the Valley High School
Community Gymnasium as its top priority.
The proposed project and resulting agreement represent another example of the
cooperation between the City and the School District which ultimately benefits the
residents of Dublin.
As the final development gets further in the process, neighborhood meetings would be
held to gather input.
Mayor Houston felt that part of the impetus for this was when the gym at Camp Parks
burned down last year. This created a bad situation. He spoke with Bob Cowan about
rebuilding and they are looking at building a gym that will accommodate 2 basketball
courts near the Chapel on H Street. They will work with the community to use the gym
at some times, but they will have expanded use on their base. They will probably begin
expansion in the spring and they emphasized that it will be primarily for Army use.
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District Architect Roy Miller with the firm Deems Lewis McKinley discussed the design of
the proposed facility. Visuals were shown and Mr. Miller indicated the proposed
placement on the site.
Cm. Burton asked about parking.
Mr. Miller stated there is an existing area of parking in front of Valley High and a new
area would be developed to the west of the Montessori building with about 32 additional
spaces. The total number of spaces will be about 75 for a 400 seat facility. He indicated
they had discussed this and stated people felt this was adequate.
Cm. Burton asked about getting some additional parking spaces.
Mr. Miller showed an area on the site where a track area will displace the existing tot lot.
The tot lot will be relocated. He felt this was an area open for discussion.
Cm. Burton asked how difficult it would be to have a stage of some sort and if this had
been discussed during the process.
Mr. Miller stated they talked about this somewhat with Valley High School more than
with Parks & Recreation. A building that is built as a gym does not lend itself beautifully
as a theatre. It is not ideal. Valley High is more likely to use the family/community
room as a theatrical space. There are also acoustical conflicts.
Ms. Ix>wart stated the P&CS discussed this and the recommendation was that the greatest
need at this time is scheduling sports facilities. The recommendation was that this facility
should be geared for sports facilities. Other facilities in the community can pick up other
needs for dances, concerts, etc. Very few requests come in for use of the gym that is not
of a sports nature.
Mayor Houston asked about the seating in the theatre at Wells.
Mr. Miller stated it would be somewhere in the 500 range. Wells has a current lot and
they will develop additional parking, so parking will be sOmewhere between 1 O0 and
110 spaces.
Board Member Cobb-Adams questioned the comment about the Dublin Unified School
District paying 1 / 3 of the cost for use of the swim center.
Ms. Lowart clarified that they pay 1/3 of the cost for the days they use it.
Board Member Kohnen commented on the need for additional facilities, but expressed
concern about the $2 million it will take to do it. When they received budget costs, the
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amount listed for Valley was only about $1 million. Over a 10 year period, the City
would be giving back money, but at least initially the Dublin Unified School District
needs to put out the money. She was concerned about what they won't be able to do if
they spend this extra $1 million. The school board hasn't really talked much about this.
Jeanne Howland, Assistant Superintendent - Business, commented that the $1 million
budget was for a multi-purpose facility and there is also an amount of money allocated,
about $ 3/4 million, for administration. They allocated $1/2 million for allocation
space remodel. It is not all gym, but the costs were increased because they will tear
down existing administrative space and build new. At the time this was done, the
district's portion of the cost was estimated to be $1.3 million. There is adequate money in
contingencies to cover this but the board would need to discuss it.
Board Member Kohnen clarified under City responsibilities that the City will contribute
the $71,000 per year.
Ms. Ix>wart explained that the costs that the Dublin Unified School District has control
over, the City will reimburse. The City would hire their own building attendant so it
would not be a situation of the City giving the school district $35,000, but rather, the
City would pay for that staff person. The indirect costs would be included.
Board Member Kohnen asked if there is any impact on the Dublin Unified School
District's insurance.
Ms. Howland explained that legal counsel would review the agreement. There has been
no problems in the past. The City provides them as additional insured.
Board Member Kohnen stated she was going to question whether the Camp Parks gym
had been taken into consideration, but Mayor Houston had addressed this.
Ms. Lowart discussed the fact that typically a gym facility is taken out of service for a 1
month period every year.
Board Member Ledahl recapped some of the information which had been presented. If
they approve the concept they are committing to a $2 million gym at Valley High. He
noted questions on insurance and the impact on the Montessori School. The ultimate
question is why this wasn't agendized by the Dublin Unified School District before they
got to this point of voting on the concept. The school board has not discussed this in an
open meeting.
Ms. Ix>wart stated the Liaison committee directed Staff to schedule this joint meeting.
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Board Member Cobb~Adams stated the concept is to agree to something and then take it
to the public. The public will then know what to address.
Mayor Houston felt it was important to meet jointly at this stage in order to avoid going
back and forth over details. By meeting together they can give joint direction. Everyone
is going along on the same page.
Board Member Ledahl felt they've missed a page by not having the school board discuss
this before this stage. By voting tonight, they are committed to it. He's had less than a
week to make a decision and did not feel capable to vote on it at this time.
Board Member Kohnen stated she also would have liked to have seen it on an agenda.
On May 19 they received a summary from the task force but it did not have any dollar
amounts attached.
Board Member Cobb-Adams stated this all came out of the last liaison committee
meeting. Questions should have been addressed earlier.
Board Member Kohnen said she didn't have an opportunity to ask the questions. The
school district is, after all, the one putting up the $2 million.
Board Member Patterson felt expediency should be kept in mind. They can gain by tying
this in with the renovations at Wells and be able to save money. This will have to go to
the State Department of Architecture and this will cause a delay. We're most likely
looking at 2 years before the gym can actually be used. Both sites could be done at the
same time. At the last liaison meeting they decided that the best thing to do would be to
have a joint meeting and move forward as quickly as possible. After every liaison
meeting, there has been verbal reports to the complete board.
Mayor Houston felt that they must first decide if they want to do this. The Dublin
Unified School District cannot do this alone; the City cannot do it alone. By pooling
resources, we can save constituents a lot of money and give the people something they
want. Do we want to serve the people or do we want to have meeting after meeting?
Cm. Moffatt suggested that what they are doing tonight is looking at the concept. A draft
agreement will be prepared and this is when a decision is made. He saw this meeting as
discussing an agreement and to go forward or not go forward and talk about it.
Mayor Houston felt this is a way to get going sooner than later and to speed it up and still
have questions addressed and give the public, input.
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Cm. Burton pointed out that only 10 minutes remained before the scheduled City Council
meeting.
Mayor Houston advised that the joint meeting would continue as long as necessary.
Betsy Chapman, 11579 Circle Way stated she is an incoming freshman at DHS. She felt
this facility needed to be approved tonight. Many groups fight for space. Dublin sports
teams are not nearly as competitive as they could be if they had regulation size facilities.
This facility is desperately needed.
Jeff Chapman, 11579 Circle Way read a letter from J. Vanloon asking are we tired of
seeing kids doing all sorts of non productive types of things. Are we serious about
attacking these problems. This facility will serve as a positive influence for years to
come. Not only should we build it, we need to wear it out from use. Mr. Chapman
stated he felt the P&CS Commission has worn this topic out. Only 3 numbers are really
relative anymore: 2, 2,000 and $700,000. Two is the number of gyms we have in the
community now. This means as many as 2,000 in our community fight for space at odd
times. For a difference of approximately $700,000 you can take a facility that was
already proposed, and build a larger more needed facility.
Bob Miller, 8133 Via Zapata stated he was a member of the C}-TF and coaches CYO
basketball. There's no question we need more space. He is a firm supporter of sports.
We have a lot of excellent athletes in Dublin and we see them playing on other city
teams.
Kevin Gillmore, 11815 Bloomington Way with St. Raymond's CYO basketball stated they
felt they reach out even though they are a private group. With the space they have, they
just can't do it. They compete with schools and they are just looking for some time.
Quite often schools have some last minute things that come up. If they get a community
gym it would spread out to other organizations as well as basketball.
Steven Jones, 77¢2 Tamarack Drive stated he had been involved since about 1987 with
CYO. His son graduated last year. Basketball has suffered for years in this town due to
lack of gym space. Volleyball teams for both girls and boys are growing. Between the
two sports, they all need gym space. There is also a big need for adult space and for
youth to have a place to go and this is an ideal situation. CYO opens their arms to
anyone who wants to play basketball.
Dennis Parrish, 6841 Hyde Court has been involved with youth sports for about 8 years
since his son was 5 years old. This is just the tip of the iceberg. More and more children
are coming up and he would like to see his son be able to continue to participate in sports
here in Dublin. Little league just finished and practice space was an absolute prime
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concern for all the coaches. Too crowded fields create potentially dangerous situations.
He urged the City to think positively about this. They should ask the Police Department
about sports participation being a solution to youth problems.
Chris Lamb, 7882 Crossridge Road has been involved with CYO basketball and baseball
for several years, also with clinics. This City does not have the space. Many kids try to
share a gym to try to improve their skills. He did not feel this facility should be multi-
purpose. We should take advantage of facilities that we have for other events such as
dancing. He still plays in an adult league. Kids come to the clinics and they're not
particularly good, but they enjoy going through the drills. He is 100% behind this. It's
terrible to go a couple of blocks across the freeway and see their immaculate facilities.
John Westerlund, 731 ¢ Cronin Circle felt we need a gym. When he plays at CYO they
practice at Wells and their courts are too small. They weren't very good and many teams
don't practice enough. He and his friend decided to paint curbs to earn money to
contribute to this gym. He thanked CTV30 and the Tri~Valley Herald for giving them
exposure and Cm. Burton for getting the Rotary Club to sponsor them. He hopes they get
this gym because they really need it.
Mmgie Wong-Gilmore, 11815 applauded youth in the community for being so
forthcoming with their endorsement of this facility. She was involved, in the CFTF as a
participant because this was something that is important to her. We have very tired
facilities for sports in this community. We need to make some renovations and to take
advantage of opportunities like this as they come up. The P&CS Commission discussed if
this would be the vehicle for expansion. We definitely need to expand some of our
programs. We can reach more youth by combining these facilities that mean so much to
youth sports. She attended a school board meeting about a month ago where there were
a lot of parents who have kids involved in athletics. She recalled someone who spoke and
said he remembered in growing up, the sports programs he was involved with more so
than even the teachers. She urged the City Council and the Dublin Unified School
District Board to go forward and not wait for a long period of time on this. They have an
opportunity to make a difference.
Bob Fasulkey, 7776 Topaz a member of the CFrF stated they put a great deal of effort
putting this effort together. He is generally not an advocate of sports programs and
usually sees academic needs first. One thing that struck him, however, was that this plan
was very well thought out. Due diligence has been shown and it is now appropriate to
go forward with the concept.
Dick Stein, 11524 Marwick Drive was on the CFTF and they will be discussing many of
the other projects in the future. Obviously a lot of people are interested in this project
and recognize the needs. The timing fits together because of what is happening at Wells.
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He encouraged both groups to approve the project at least in concept. Details, even
though significant, can be worked out. This project is critical time wise. If this is halted,
it could be a serious detriment to this project. At least get the building built. All the
other things can be worked out. It is vital for our community.
George Cramer, 7700 San Sabana Court felt almost everything he wanted to say had
been said. He is president of Dublin United Soccer League which has about 900 kids.
is also on the P&CS Commission. He urged the City Council and the school board to
move forward with the project.
He
Mayor Houston closed the public input portion so that the 2 bodies could deliberate.
Board Member Cobb-Adams stated when this was discussed at the liaison meeting, she
and Board Member Patterson thought the change related to the swim center would start
next year instead of at the time the gym is compete and available for use by the
community. She requested consideration for the new arrangement to at least start not
next year, but the following year.
Mayor Houston explained the fiscal year situation of budgets running July through June.
The soonest this would occur would be for construction to start next summer. The City
Council did not feel they would be picking this up until the building is completed and
this would be 2 years. It might be reasonable to pick it up when the building is under
construction. He felt this could be a compromise for FY 199¢~07.
Board Member Cobb-Adams felt this was a reasonable compromise.
Cm. Barnes felt it was reasonable. In looking at the map, the Wells site would be
adequate for parking. This has been a long time coming and tonight would be to
approve conceptual terms. It's a wonderful thought to know they are one for the benefit
of the community.
Cm. Moffatt concurred with the swimming pool discussion.
Mayor Houston stated he respected Board Member Kohnen's comments about the costs.
Staff will be reviewing this and will report back.
Cm. Burton complimented the task force and stated it was impressive to see all who have
been involved in this.
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On motion of Cm. Burton, seconded by Mayor Houston, and by unanimous vote, the City
Council approved the conceptual terms for the joint development of the Valley High
School Community Gymnasium and directed City and District Staff to prepare a draft
agreement for consideration by each agency's legislative body.
On motion of Board Member Patterson, seconded by Board Member Ledahl, and by
unanimous vote (Board Member Meyer absent), the Dublin Unified School District Board
approved the conceptual terms for the joint development of the Valley High School
Community Gymnasium and directed City and District Staff to prepare a draft agreement
for consideration by each agency's legislative body.
Board Member Ledahl stated he wished to add a comment that all board members be a
part of the future process.
ADJOURNMENT
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There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned
at 7:21 p.m.
Mayor
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