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Tuesday, December 8, 2009
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, December
8, 2009, in the City Council Chambers located at 100 Civic Plaza. Chair Wehrenberg called the
meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Chair Wehrenberg; Vice Chair King; Commissioners Schaub, Brown, and Swalwell; Jeri
Ram, Community Development Director; Kit Faubion, City Attorney; Mike Porto, Consulting
Planner; Jamie. Rojo, Assistant Planner; and Debra LeClair, Recording Secretary.
Absent: None
ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE AGENDA -Chair Wehrenberg suggested moving the
Goals and Objectives discussion to the end of the meeting, after the public hearings. The
Commission agreed.
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS - On a motion by Cm. Schaub, seconded by Cm. King
the minutes of the November 24, 2009 meeting were approved.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS -NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR -NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS -
8.1 PA 09-028 Ruby Health Massage Conditional Use .Permit for a Massage Establishment.
Jamie Rojo, Assistant Planner presented the project as outlined in the Staff Report.
Cm. Schaub asked to review the parking chart as he felt there should be one space required for
an office.
Ms. Rojo answered the Applicant does not have an office.
Chair Wehrenberg asked if the reception area is considered an office.
Ms. Rojo answered the reception area was counted as a waiting area.
Cm. Schaub felt the parking space requirement for an office should still be included because if
there is a business there needs to be an office facility.
Jeri Ram, Community Development Director mentioned that this is a small business and often
in this type of business the owner is a masseuse as well as the manager.
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Cm. Swalwell asked if there will be showers located in the facility.
Ms. Rojo answered no, only bathrooms; one for men and one for women.
Cm. King asked what is required to obtain a permit and if a background check is performed for
anyone wanting to open such a facility.
Ms. Rojo answered the Chief of Police issues the permit and does a background check. They are
also required to have a state permit and a building permit.
Cm. Schaub read the findings and asked if these are the findings in the resolution that must be
made in order to approve the application for CUP.
Ms. Rojo answered yes to each finding.
Chair Wehrenberg opened the public hearing.
Dennis Wang, 8888 Bellina Commons, resident spoke in opposition to the project. He stated his
residence is next to the proposed massage center. His reasons for opposition are: 1) the facility.
is too close to neighborhoods with small children; 2) he is concerned about possible illegal
activities; and 3) it will attract the wrong type of people to the area. He is also .concerned
because the facility is ten steps from the Dublin Center Village with approximately 50
townhouses. He felt that there are many massage businesses that open in the mall and are
open for everyone to see what is happening. He felt the enclosed small rooms for massage was
"asking for trouble." He hoped the Commission would reject the business at that location. He
also mentioned their Homeowners Association did not have enough time to discuss the matter
in depth and asked the Commission to give them time for a complete discussion so that they
could have a uniform voice. He also suggested the City do background checks to ensure the
Applicant does not have a criminal record.
Chantha Vater, 8913 San Ramon Road, spoke in opposition to the project. She agreed with Mr.
Wang and also asked for more time for their HOA to meet and discuss the project. She was
also concerned about the hours of operation.
Jian Chang Xie, Applicant, and Norman Lew, interpreter spoke in support of the project.
Cm. Swalwell asked if this is the first massage establishment he has run or if he has operated
others and if so, where are they located.
Mr. Xie stated this is the first one.
Cm. Swalwell asked why he chose Dublin for his business.
Mr. Xie answered he had been looking for a space for his massage business for a long time and
saw the space on-line and felt it was a good location.
Cm. Swalwell asked if all of the masseuses will have a license.
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Mr. Xie answered yes.
Cm. Swalwell asked what the masseuses will wear.
Mr. Xie answered a white uniform.
Cm. Swalwell asked if the uniforms will always be worn.
Mr. Xie answered yes, always.
Cm. Brown asked if the masseuses will be both male and female.
Mr. Xie answered they may hire two female and 1 male masseuse.
Cm. Brown asked if he requires the employees to have massage training.
Mr. Xie answered yes; all employees must have a license.
Cm. Brown asked what is required to obtain a massage license.
Mr. Xie answered they must go to school, and work for approximately 600 hours.
Cm. Schaub asked what time during his hours of operation most of his customers will arrive for
services.
Mr. Xie answered his customers arrive during lunch time or after 6pm after work.
Cm. Schaub asked about weekend business.
Mr. Xie responded that business is very slow on the weekends.
Cm. Schaub asked how he would feel about closing the business at 6:OOpm
Mr. Xie felt 6:OOpm was too early, but felt that 7:OOpm could work but 8:OOpm would be better.
He stated that most other massage facilities close at 9, 10 or 11 and offered to check with other
businesses in the area.
Cm. Schaub asked about the hours of operation to determine what the Applicant felt about
possibly changing the hours to make the neighbors feel more at ease about the business.
Cm. King asked if all the rooms were designed to be private rooms.
Mr. Xie answered yes.
Cm. King asked why the rooms needed to be private.
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Mr. Xie stated he had no problem making the rooms transparent if there is a concern about
illegal activities. He suggested making the walls not extend all the way to the ceiling, or make
the doors glass.
Cm. Schaub mentioned he has friends that use professional massage services and felt it was a
legitimate business.
Cm. King agreed with Cm. Schaub that there is a legitimate need for professional massage
.services. He asked the Applicant if he understood the neighbors' concerns.
Mr. Xie answered yes he understands their concerns but stated his business is totally legal. He
stated his family had an acupuncture/massage business in China which is why he wanted to
open this facility.
Cm. King asked if he has received any type of medical training to use massage services to help
with any health or medical conditions.
Mr. Xie answered yes he has a personal massage license and 2 years ago he went to school and
worked for 600 hours to learn massage and obtain his permit/license.
Chair Wehrenberg felt Cm. King was asking if he would be billing insurance companies as a
health care provider.
Mr. Xie answered no.
Chair Wehrenberg felt the word "health" in the name implies that he is a health care provider.
Mr. Lew, interpreter, was not sure why the Applicant named his business Ruby Health
Massage.
Mr. Xie stated he named the business Ruby Health Massage because he thought it relates to
medications and helping people reduce stress.
Chair Wehrenberg closed the public hearing.
Cm. Schaub stated as far as land use he does not see any reason for this business not to be
approved. He felt the Police department would monitor the business if there were anything
illegal going on. He stated he can make the findings and is in support of the project.
Cm. King stated he too has no reason to vote against the application. He felt the police. would
determine whether or not prostitution is going on in the business. He felt that transparency
between the stalls could help. He also questioned the word "Health" in the name and felt it
implies something other than what is being offered.
Cm. Swalwell stated he understands the concerns of those who spoke, and appreciated the
Applicant addressing the Commission s concerns and speaking in English. He felt there is a
blurry Iine between a legitimate massage establishment and prostitution. He felt it was
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unfortunate that the Applicant had to be subjected to guilt by association. He felt there is a
nexus between prostitution and massage parlors, etc. He stated the Commission does not know
anything about the business except what has been submitted. He agreed with Cm. Schaub to
leave it up to the Police to enforce the law. He felt the transparent rooms were not necessary
and was in support of the hours of operation. He suggested two conditions: 1) the Applicant
shall not be allowed to advertise under adult services on any Internet website; and 2) the City
would be allowed to revoke the CUP if any arrests were made for prostitution. He was also. in
support of postponing the vote until HOA had time to discuss the project but would go along
with the rest of the Commission.
Cm. Brown agreed with the other Commissioners and Mr. Wang s concern that the HOA did
not have time to discuss the matter. He felt that they should be given time to discuss it. He felt
the business was in a good location and was in support of the project..
Chair Wehrenberg appreciated the residents coming in, but the Commission is disagreeing with
the allocations that are being made. She stated she uses massage services for medical reasons
and her appointments are usually after work hours. She is not opposed to the project but
wanted to address the issues the speakers brought up and let them know that the Commission
listened. She stated the police will do a background check and make periodic visits to ensure
they are following City codes. She felt the business is in a good location, hours of operation are
not a problem and she disagrees with any modifications to the rooms. She mentioned that there
is an opportunity to appeal the Commission s approval to the City Council.
Ms. Ram stated they have 10 calendar days to appeal after the Planning Commission takes
action.
Chair Wehrenberg felt that the project meets the findings. She felt that the other businesses in
the area are also personal service businesses and did not wish to change the. hours of operation
or add any other Conditions of Approval.
Cm. Schaub was in support of the hours of operation and felt if it's a legitimate business then
there is no need to worry about transparency. He agreed with Cm. Swa1we11 regarding the
proposed added conditions. He was not clear the HOA would add anything but felt they are a
legitimate group of people whose opinion should be heard.
Cm. King agreed with Cm. Swalwell's proposed conditions.
On a motion by Cm. Swalwell and seconded by Cm. Brown, on a vote of 5-0, adding the
following. Condition of Approval: "The Applicant shall be prohibited from advertising adult and
erotic services through any form of media (website, periodicals, newspapers, etc.)" the Planning
Commission approved:
RESOLUTION N0.09-52
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN
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APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENT (RUBY HEALTH MASSAGE) LOCATED AT
8933 SAN RAMON ROAD
(APN 941-0164-003-09)
PA 09-028
8.2 PA 09-034 Fiorano Site Development Review for a portion of the Positano project which
includes 43 single-family detached residential units on approximately 9.2 acres within
Tract 7951 formerly known as Salerno II.
Mike Porto, Consulting Planner presented the project as outlined in the Staff Report.
Cm. Schaub asked how many granny flats have been used as a true secondary unit. He felt
there will be parking issues if they were all true secondary/granny units.
Mr. Porto responded the granny flats are a requirement for affordable housing that a certain
number of units must be provided, in this project 11 out of 43 will have granny flats... He
continued that Salerno will still have to build their affordable housing units.
Cm. Schaub was concerned that if alI the granny flats were in the same area -there would be a
parking problem.
Mr. Porto stated there were allowances made for parking in the secondary unit ordinance; also
there are 18 foot driveway aprons which allow two parking stalls on the driveway plus one
parking stall within 150ft for all the on-street parking within the neighborhoods.
Cm. Brown asked how the 11 granny flats satisfy the requirement for affordable housing units.
Ms. Ram responded when Braddock & Logan submitted the Fallon Village project they made a
proposal to the City Council to satisfy the entire Inclusionary Zoning Ordinance requirement to
build a certain percentage of single family homes, a percentage of secondary units and an off-
site mitigation area of 88 units on the Anderson property. At the same time they proposed a
community benefit payment. The City Council approved that proposal. as an alternative
method of compliance with the Inclusionary Zoning Ordinance.
Cm. Brown asked how many of the units in this project would not be granny flats.
Mr. Porto answered it would be easier to say how many definitely will have the granny flats.
He stated there will be 11. D. R. Horton bought the Inclusionary requirement as part of the
deal with Braddock & Logan therefore they are required to build 11. He continued they could
build more but they would not necessarily comply with inclusionary housing.
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Chair Wehrenberg felt that Staff and the developer had brought in a very good project and that
they had listened to the Planning Commission and the detail and the effort put into the project
is appreciated.
Cm. King asked about the option for solar wiring.
Mr. Porto answered yes there will be that option and the developer will install it in the model
homes.
Cm. King. asked if there was any way to encourage a developer to include. solar wiring in their
development as an option even if the purchaser does not want to pay for it. He also asked
about the expense.
Mr. Porto stated the developer will wire the homes for solar and offer the option to install the
photovoltaic panels at a future date.
Chair Wehrenberg stated as long as the infrastructure is already there it is less expensive then to
try to retrofit the house at a later date.
Mr. Porto stated the Commission had brought up the concern with earlier project as to why they
cannot have the ability for the homeowner to install solar at a later date. He continued Lennar
Homes, on their own, put solar into their units. He stated this is the City's first opportunity for
a developer to provide solar wiring for the home purchaser.
Cm. King understood that the wiring is the infrastructure which will be done on all the units
and the option is to include the solar or photovoltaic panels.
Mr. Porto answered yes.
Cm. Schaub felt the cost would be difficult to predict with so many programs available.
Chair Wehrenberg felt this helps the City meet more green building guides.
Chair Wehrenberg opened the public hearing.
Dean Mills, D. R. Horton, Applicant, spoke in favor of the project.
Chair Wehrenberg asked about the timeline and if he felt the market is strong and that people
are interested in green housing.
Mr. Mills stated they have found there to be a mix and it also relates to the price of the homes.
He continued that D.R. Horton offers solar as an option in most of their properties, but this is
the first time making the pre-wire standard. He felt how it is received is based on the price of
the house. He felt that not all the market for the solar panels is there yet but feels that cities are
going in that direction. He stated their company tries to design houses with green building in
mind.
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Chair Wehrenberg asked if the rebates help.
Mr. Mill answered yes but in some areas (Roseville} electricity is cheap so solar isri t needed.
Chair Wehrenberg asked about a timeline to start the. project.
Mr. Mills answered they would like to start as soon as the plans are approved.
Cm. Schaub asked if there will be a specific HOA for the project or will they be included in the
larger development's HOA.
Mr. Mills answered the project will be part of the existing HOA.
Cm. Schaub asked if the front yards will be maintained by the HOA.
Mr. Mills answered the watering will be controlled by the existing HOA.
Chair Wehrenberg closed the public hearing.
Cm. King liked the pre-wiring option and stated he would like to see a requirement for all
buildings to be wired .for solar. He also would like to find a way to encourage front yards that
don't involve lawns with the extent of water rationing in California.
Mr. Porto stated the lawns in this project will be minimal..
On a motion by Cm. Schaub and seconded by Cm. Swalwell, on a vote of 5-0, the Planning
Commission approved:
RESOLUTION N0.09- 53
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN
APPROVING A SITE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
FOR FIORANO AT POSITANO, FOR
43 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON
APPROXIMATELY 9.2 ACRES WITHIN TRACT 7951
PA 09-034
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7.1 Planning Commission Goals and Objectives 2010
Jeri Ram, Community Development Director presented the Goals and Objectives. as outlined in
the Staff Report.
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Ms. Ram mentioned Goal #7 "Amend the Streetscape Master Plan to include enhanced entry feature
designs at Gateways" which had a staff priority of "delete" because the monuments were ready to
be installed.
Cm. Schaub asked if it should be "completed" because the monuments are already to be
installed and that was the goal.
Ms. Ram felt that Cm. King's goal was to enhance the plan and change it.
Cm. King stated his intent was to create something so that people coming into the City would
recognize they are in Dublin; which could be a theme, landscaping, or anything.
Ms. Ram stated if that is the case then it should be marked "complete" because the monuments
are being installed.
Cm. King asked what features were installed other than the monument sign.
Ms. Ram answered there will be features along Dublin Blvd. on the medians .that have cut-out
Shamrocks.
Cm. King felt it would be nice if the gateways had some kind of identifying themes. He
continued when he set the goal he was not referring to Dublin Blvd.
Ms. Ram responded all gateways into the City will have a monument sign and the median
structures will be replaced with shamrocks as well as along the overcrossing where the rails are
currently. Therefore she felt the goal should be marked as "completed."
Cm. Schaub agreed it should be marked completed.
Cm. King agreed it should be marked completed.
Cm. Brown was concerned there are no directional signs to any destination at any of the
gateways into Dublin. He felt the signage would need to fit in with the monuments and should
complement them as well.
Ms. Ram stated within the Streetscape Master Plan there are community directional sign
standards. She agreed to speak with the Public Works Department to see what the plan is for
community directional signs.
Ms. Ram stated in reviewing the Goals and Objectives Staff took a no-cost perspective due to the
fiscal issues in local government. She stated Staff is hoping to finish the projects on the list; the
only additional cost is the Scarlett Court Specific Plan.
Ms. Ram asked the Commission if they would like to add any additional items or goals to the
list.
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Chair Wehrenberg mentioned Goal #8 - "Updating the City's General Plan' which they had not
discussed as yet.
Ms. Ram stated it would be cost prohibitive to continue with this goal therefore it was
recommended to be deleted.
Ms. Ram asked for any additional Goals and Objectives.
Cm. Schaub stated the Commission had discussed studying the Parking Ordinance. but they did
not have the opportunity. He mentioned the City Council has it on their list of Goals and
Objectives. He thought the Council had wanted the Planning Commission to study parking.
He felt the issue should be discussed.
Ms. Ram stated Staff will analyze, this year: restaurant parking, outdoor seating and shared
parking. She stated the City did- not have funds for a consultant to do a revision of the Parking
Ordinance. She continued Staff reviewed the issues that had been brought to the Planning
Commission most frequently and found the following parking requirements to be out of sync:
indoor recreation, large family -day care, restaurant, as well as outdoor seating and .shared
parking issue. She stated Staff hopes to have all the parking concerns studied and submitted to
the Council and the Planning Commission by the end of the fiscal year.
Chair Wehrenberg felt that the shared parking issue is unique.
Ms. Ram stated the study will be done at the Staff level with no additional cost to the City.
Cm. Schaub suggested the Planning Commission take a tour of the City to talk .about
commercial architecture and decide what they like or dori t like. He stated he would like to do
this before they are presented with the Draft Downtown Speciā¬ic Plan.
Cm. Schaub thought it is important for the Planning Commission to know the different styles of
architecture and be able to name them.
The Commission discussed a tour of the City to determine what kinds of buildings they like and
dori t like.
Chair Wehrenberg felt that they should know what kind of projects are coming up and what
issues are important now before they schedule a tour.
Ms. Ram mentioned the computer survey done by the City to determine the likes and dislikes of
the residents as well as 3 walking tours of the downtown area that were conducted during the
Downtown Specific Plan process.
Cm. King asked if the survey brought any meaningful information to Staff.
Ms. Ram answered yes it was discussed at the last joint City Council/Planning Commission
study session.
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Cm. Schaub felt it would be beneficial to review the survey and then physically look at the
buildings that the residents liked.
Ms. Ram suggested waiting to take the tour until the design guidelines are out for review. She
agreed to speak with Jeff Baker, Planning Manager, regarding a tour of the City for the
Commission.
The Planning Commission had no Goals and Objectives to add.
Preliminary Goals and Objectives 2010-2011
PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE
1. Implement residential planned development and HIGH -Unanimous
investigate opportunities to create a new, village in
Easter Dublin Transit Center
2. Complete Parks Reserve Forces Training Area (Camp HIGH -Unanimous
Parks General Plan ands ecific Plan Amendments.
3. Update Downtown, West Dublin BART and San Ramon HIGH -Unanimous
Specific Plans into one Comprehensive plan that
addresses the entire Downtown area.
4. Complete Scarlett Court Specific Plan King -High
Wehrenberg -High
Brown -Med
Schaub -High
Swalwell - Hi h
5. Partici ate in 2010 Census HIGH -Unanimous
6. Develop policy requiring play areas in walking distance DELETE -Unanimous
of new homes in new subdivisions.
7. Amend the Streetscape Master Plan to include enhanced DELETE -Unanimous
entr -feature desi sat Gatewa s.
8. U date the Ci 's General Plan DELETE -Unanimous
HOUSING:
The Planning Commission had no Goals and Objectives to add.
HOUSING VOTE
1. Process 10 First Time Homebuyer Loan applications Schaub -High
King -High
Wehrenberg -Med
Swalwell -Low
Brown - Hi h
2. Develop appropriate plans and policies for becoming a HIGH -Unanimous
Communi Develo ment Block Grant entitlement ci
3. Work with Dublin Housing Authority and development HIGH -Unanimous
team on relocation of Arroyo Vista tenants, grant
a lications and develo ment of ro'ect site.
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NEW OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS -NONE
OTHER BUSINESS -NONE
10.1 .Chair Wehrenberg mentioned she would not be available .for the Goals and Qbjectives
meeting scheduled for January 23, 2010.
10.2 Ms. Ram informed the Commission of the Planning Institute scheduled in Monterey with
a115 Planning Commissioners as well as Ms. Ram and Jeff Baker will be in attendance.
10.3 Cm. Swalwell asked if there was anything new with business licenses, new applications
or anything happening in the. City. Ms. Ram was not aware of anything new.
ADTOURNMENT -The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Respectfully
Doreen Wehren
Chair Planning ~
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