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Regular Meeting - January 7, 1985
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was
held on January 7, 1985, in the Meeting Room, Dublin Library.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Cm. Alexander,
Chairman.
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Alexander, Barnes, Petty, Mack, and
Raley, Planning Director Tong, Senior Planner Gailey, and
Associate Planner DeLuca.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Alexander did not lead the Pledge of Allegiance because
there was no flag present.
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The minutes of the regular meeting of December 17, 1984 were
approved as written.
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ORAL COMMUNICATION
None
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
Commissioners were given a copy of the Supplemental EIR for
Dublin General Plan for their information. The Planning
Commission decided to hold the item over for review and
comment on January 21, 1985.
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PUBLIC HEARING
SUBJECT: PA 84-082 Winning Action Investment, Inc., (American
City Truck Stop) Conditional Use Permit application to ~
allow the continued operation of a truck stop and weigh
station at 6117 Dougherty Road.
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The adjoining property owner requested the Planning Commission to
postpone this matter until the January 21, 1985 Planning
Commission Meeting. Chairman Alexander asked the applicant if
he had any objections to postponement.
Mr. Fred Houston replied that he did not object.
Voice vote found all in favor of.
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SUBJECT: PA 84-079 Parkway Baptist Church Conditional Use
Permit, to allow continued use of two existing
temporary trailers for one additional year at 7485
Village Parkway.
Mr. Gailey presented the Staff Report. This item involves two
temporary trailers which occupy the northeast corner of the site.
The subject property was described as being in a transitional
area lying between residential and commercial areas along Village
Parkway.
Staff previously reported in 1983 that they had no problem with
temporary use of trailers on this site. The catch phrase was
stressed to be the "temporary" use of the trailers.
In terms of physical improvements to the site over the last year
the applicant indicated in his written statement that they have
installed the required permanent irrigation system and new lawn
area. The applicant indicated in his letter that the required
handicapped access to the new trailer had not been installed
because the church had changed the use of the trailer to less of
a public use, and felt that it was not necessary to have the
handicapped access. Discussions with the Building Official have
indicated that the handicapped access will still be required and
that some electrical work will also need to be done.
Staff recommended that the Planning Commission adopt the
resolution provided in the January 7, 1985 package approving
Parkway Baptist Church's request (PA 84-079) for a Conditional
Use Permit to allow continued use of two temparary trailers for a
maximum period of 18 months at 7485 Village Parkway. The extra
time period recommended by Staff (18 months vs. 12 months) was
recommended to be linked to performance requirements by the
applicant. It was recommended that if prior to July 7, 1985, the
applicant submits complete Conditional Use Permit and Site
Development Review submittals then the expiration date for PA
84-079 would be ,7anuary 7, 1986.
Chairman Alexander asked if there was anyone in the audience
representing Parkway Baptist Church. No one appeared to
represent the church.
Commission Raley asked if there had been any interaction at all
with Parkway Baptist.
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Mr. Gailey stated that there has not been any direct
communication to date. He then stated that there was a new
pastor at the church that was not involved with the processing of
the previous permit.
Commission Mack moved to continue this hearing until January 21,
1985 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commission Raley seconded motion.
Voice vote found all in favor of.
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SUBJECT: PA 84-040 Enea Plaza Planned Development Rezoning
A Planned Development Rezoning to allow future
consideration and development of a hotel, restaurant,
two-five story office buildings, addition to the
existing theater, shops and offices, Dublin Boulevard
at Amador Plaza Road.
Mr. DeLuca presented the Staff Report. Ron Findleton,
representing John and Sal Enea, filed a request for the City to
rezone approximately 16.3 acres located on the east and west
sides of Amador Plaza Road from a Planned Development with C-0
restrictions to a PD/C-1 which permits both office and retail
uses. Future development on the site would be governed by the
Planned Development.
The PD would be a conceptual plan that represented the schematic
build-out of the site. Prior to constructing any of the
improvements, the applicants would have to file for, and receive
approval of, a Site Development Review. The conditions of the
Site Development Review could re~vise the conceptual proposal,
with respect to height, pad locations, circulation system,
architectural design, landscaped locations and other site plan
details.
If the Planned Development was approved by the City, the
applicants would file Site Development Review applications with
Staff on each phase of the planned development. At that time,
detailed arch'tectural, landscaping and site plans would be
prepared, and processed.
Chairman Alex nder opened the public hearing.
Ron Findleton addressed the Planning Commission and stated he was
in agreement ith the Staff Report.
Chairman Alex nder closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Alexander asked if a Site Development Review for the
project would come to the Planning Commission for review and
approval. Staff said that, as proposed, the Site Development
Review would not be heard by the Planning Commission unless it
was appealed.
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Commissioner Petty asked if additional environmental review,
especially in terms of traffic impacts, would occur at a later
stage. Staff said that additional environmental review would
occur with the processing of the Site Development Review.
Commissioner Raley said that the Planning Commission should
review the overall site plan. Chairman Alexander said that a
general site plan for the entire area should be required prior to
individual Site Development Review being processed.
Commissioner Raley and Mack noted their concerns with the
proposed height of the five-story office buildings.
Chairman Alexander requested more detailed information be
provided on the plans and noted he would like to see the
development plans come back to the Planning Commission.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to continue this
item to 1/21/85 so that revised conditions could be developed.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
SUBJECT: Sign Regulation Review.
Mr. Gailey reopened the discussion on the Sign Regulations by
summarizing the actions taken to date at two previous Commission
Meetings and by describing the material presented to the Planning
Commission in the January 7, 1985, Staff Report. The Commmission
had been discussing major sign issue areas at their December 17,
1984, meeting leaving off at Issue Area #10. Remaining for
discussion were Issue Areas #11 and #12 and supplemental
information on some of the ten previously discussed issue areas
as supplied in the December 17, 1984, and January 7, 1985, Staff
Reports.
11) Exempt or Permitted Signs Staff Comment: Staff advised
that a listing of exempt or permitted signs is a common element
of most sign ordinances. Two lists were supplied for
consideration by the Commission; The first list included 15
items taken either from the existing City Ordinance or from the
recommendations of the Sign Regulation Committee. The second
list included items taken from other City's sign regulations. An
additional category, open house real estate signs, was also
suggested for consideration and had been presented in detail
within the January 7, 1984, Staff Rsport in response to testimony
received at the December 17, 1984 Commission Meeting.
The Commission expressed its consensus opinion that two open
house real estate signs was an appropriate limit, as had been
proposed by Staff in the draft language for these signs.
Commissioner Raley inquired as to what regulations were realistic
governing open house real estate signs given the problems
anticipated with on going enforcement.
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Mr. Gailey advised of the enforcement problems described by Staff
members of the cities of Walnut Creek and Fremont, two cities
with regulations dealing with open house real estate signs. The
conclusion of the Staff inembers contacted was that the real
estate industry could probably not be relied upon to be self-
regulating regarding this issue.
Chairman Alexander and Mr. Tong relayed their understanding as to
how the City of Pleasanton handles illegal use of open house real
estate signs placed in the public right of way (police pick them
up) and within the City of Dublin (street maintenance people pick
them up).
Commissioner Raley and Mr. Tong discussed the possibility/need to
have regulations controlling the total number of open house real
estate signs at any one intersection. No consensus was expressed
by the Commission regarding this matter.
Arnold Durer stated concerns over the proliferation of paper off
premises subdivision signs advertisinq new residential
developments.
Mr. Tong advised that use of these signs are not allowed under
the existing ordinance.
Mr. Robbins redirected the discussion away from Issue Area #11 by
referring to the January 7, 1985, letter received from Jim
Daugherty, President of the Board of Directors of the Dublin
Chamber of Commerce. The letter stated the Chamber's desire to
withhold taking a position on the proposed sign ordinance until
such time as the final recommendations and changes had been made
by the Planning Commission.
Mr. Robbins continued by asking how the Sign Regulation Committee
secured its input.
Chairman Alexander indicated that a copy of the Sign Regulation
Committee's Report could be made available to Mr. Robbins for his
review.
Mr. Robbins posed specific questions about the use of
freestanding signs inquiring if the intent of Staff and the
Commission was to start from scratch with new regulations, go
with the Sign Regulation Committee's recommendations; or use the
existing ordinance as a starting point. Mr. Robbins requested
that the existing standard be retained and stated he objected to
the use of a 20' maximum height limit for freestanding signs. He
also indicated his objections to the possible use of the
development review process as a means to bring non-conforming
signs into conformance with new or modified regulations.
Mr. Gailey explained briefly the new state legislation concerning
on-premises advertising displays and the legislation's impact on
amortization schedules and the ability of jurisdictions to
require removal or modifications of non-conforming signs. Mr.
Gailey discussed two options in approaching the elimination of
non-conforming signs. The first option was explained as
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incorporating the City's existing amortization schedule into the
amended ordinance and systematically eliminating non-conforming
signs at the end of the amortization period. The second option
discussed involved the use of the development review process
under this option, as parcels file for modifications to their
existing land use, Staff could require removal or elimination of
non-conforming signs as part of the development review process.
Mr. Gailey advised that both options are subject to sections of
the recent referenced State Legislation.
Issue Area #6 Nonconforming Signs Responding to the discussion
centering around Mr. Robbins comments, the Commission discussed
the supplemental information involving non-conforming signs
supplied in the January 7, 1985, Staff Report.
Commissioner Mack requested that Staff provide copies of the
State Legislation directly to the Commission.
Commissioner Raley stated a desire to establish a low threshold
for "tripping" the development review process which could allow
the city to require an upgrading of non-conforming signage
present on the site. He expressed support of the "turn-over"
approach which would provide for incremental upgrades as new
project submittals were processed. On a general note,
Commissioner Raley questioned whether a lower threshold should be
used than a 1,000 square foot addition to trip the requirement
that a Site Development Review be processed.
Mr. Robbins expressed concern that the Business Community may
have missed their opportunity to give input on the subject of
Sign Regulations. He also reiterated concerns that involved his
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own car dealership regarding potential future use of a portion of
his property and the prospect that signage located elsewhere on
his property might be reguired to be removed or modified once new
, regulations are put in place.
Chairman Alexander summarized the six recommendations included
within the Sign Regulation Committee Report for Mr. Robbins
benef it .
Issue Area #12 Prohibited Signs Mr. Gailey described the format
of the Staff Report listings of potential categories of
prohibited signs.
Commissioner Raley questioned item B(4) which recommended a
prohibition of advertising signs in the agricultural districts.
Mr. Tong explained the regulations present the existing ordinance
involving signs in the agricultural districts. Following Mr.
Tong's statement there was general discussion about the steps
necessary to assure the language incorporated into the new sign
ordinance would be compatible with other sections of the existing
ordinance. Mr. Tong indicated that it would be staff's intent to
format the regulations into a standardized manner which would
have sign regulations set into each affected zoning district and
a sec~ion providing for the general sign regulations.
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Issue Area #1 and #2 Height and Number of Freestanding Signs -
Supplemental Information: Mr. Gailey summarized Staff's survey
of how other jurisdictions approach regulation of the height and
number of freestanding signs. He explained most jurisdictions do
not have a single uniform standard, but use varying standards
which are tied to zoning , location, parcel size, etc., to
control the height and number of freestanding signs.
Commissioners Barnes, Mack and Raley expressed their opinion that
a 20 foot maximum height limit was appropriate and reflected
recent actions by the Commission on sign requests they've
reviewed (e.g. Pak "N Save, Lew Doty Cadillac). Chairman
Alexander indicated his opinion that a 25' height limit was okay.
The Commission expressed a consensus opinion that formation and
application of a freeway sign corridor was not necessary or
desirable.
Issue Area #5; Sign Problem Along Village Parkway - Supplemental
Information Mr. Gailey made a detailed presentation of the
supplemental information included in the January 7, 1985, Staff
Report as it pertains to this issue area. The commission
expressed support of the concept of developing special design
criteria for use by certain businesses along Village Parkway.
The Commission also indicated support of the "first-cut" Summary
of design, size and locational criteria that had been developed
by Staff for the Commission's review.
Commissioner Raley indicated that once the new Sign Regulations
are in place, concentrated efforts to assure compliance should be
directed to the Village Parkway corridor. He also questioned
Staff as to what steps would be necessary to secure elimination
of use of wall painted signs.
Issue Area #7 Signs for Promotional Events Mr. Gailey described
the findings of a field survey of the users of promotional signs
that had been observed in the City of Dublin. The businesses
observed using promotional signs were described as typically
being restaurant uses. Mr. Gailey indicated Staff's
recommendation was ~hat use of explicit standards be made and
that Staff continue to use the processing format currently in
place.
The Commission expressed a consensus opinion to support Staff's
recommendations regarding use of promotional signage, retaining
the basic format used currently to_process promotional signs.
This approach would allow for bona fide grand openings and use of
one promotional event a year, both subject to the Administrative
Conditional Use Permit process. Support was expressed by the
Council to allow the use of inflatables for promotional events,
subject to review and authorization by Staff.
Issue Area #8 Signs for Multi-Story Buildings Supplemental
Information: Mr. Gailey summarized the findings of Staff's
review of neighboring city's sign regulations as regards to the
height and location of wall/roof signs. The Commission expressed
as consensus opinion that use of separate standards for roof
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signs and wall signs was not necessary/desirable. The Commission
reiterated their desire to preclude use of roof signs projecting
over the roof ridgeline or above the parapet and use of roof
signs mounted on sloping roofs.
Commissioner Raley moved that the Commission close the discussion
portion of the review of the Sign Regulations. Commissioner Mack
seconded.
Voice vote found all in favor of the motion. (4-0 with
Commissioner Petty absent).
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NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Tong asked the Commission to review the Supplemental to the
EIR for Dublin General Plan and make their comments to him at the
January 21, 1985 Planning Commission Meeting, or call him
directly at the office.
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OTHER BUSINESS
Sawmill Sign was discussed. Mr. Tong explained to the Commission
the City's action regarding the Sawmill Sign.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
10:53 p.m..
Respectfully submitted, i~
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Pl ing Commission Chairman
, Laurence L. Tong,
Planning Director
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