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Regular Meeting - December 3, 1984
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was
held on December 3, 1984, in the Meeting Room, Dublin Library.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Cm. Alexander,
Chairman.
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Alexander, Barnes,z.Petty, Mack, and
Raley, Planning Director Tong, Senior Planner Gailey, and
Associate Planner DeLuca.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Cm. Alexander led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the
pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The minutes of the regular meeting of November 19, 1984, were
approved as corrected.
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ORAL COMMUNICATION
Mel Luna, 11530 Padre Way, Dublin, California, stated that he was
concerned about the Sawmill Shopping Center Sign. Mr. Luna
wanted to know if there was a violation of the Sign Ordinance.
Mr. Tong stated that the Staff has been working with the
applicant and the applicant's attorney, concerning the sign. It
appears that the applicant will be applying for a variance for
the sign.
Mr. Luna asked if the City was going to have the Sawmill take
down their sign until the variance is resolved. Mr. Tong stated
that the City has requested that the signs be removed at this
time. Sawmill has 10 days from the date they received a letter
to comply or show cause why they are not complying.
Mr. Willard Moore of Dublin Dinettes objected to the Sawmill sign
covering his sign.
Mr. Bruce King of A-Active Signs objected to both the wall sign
and freestanding sign put up by the Sawmill.
Chairman Alexander stated that this matter would be touched on
later in the evening.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
None
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PUBLIC HEARING
SUBJECT: PA 84-055, Imperial Freeholds California lncorporated
Conditional Use Permit application for an extension to
a Planned Development, Zoning Unit 1491
Mr. DeLuca presented the Staff Report, which was a request by
Imperial Freeholds California lncorporated for an extension to a
Planned Development located immediately west of the Dublin Sports
Grounds and Valley High School. Mr. Tony Long, representing
Imperial Freeholds California lncorporated, requested a two year
extension to the Planned Development prevously approved by
Alameda County. The Planned Development called for three
separate buildings on the 10 acre site. Two of the buildings
would be two story and the third building would be a three story
structure. Each would feature a central atrium courtyard. There
would also be a man made pond that would be adjacent to all three
of the buildings. The Site Development Review to construct the
three buildings expired. The applicant indicated that
construction had not started because of economic reasons.
Staff's position was that the overall project was very
attractive. However, Staff did not feel it was appropriate to
provide a two year extension to the Planned Development. Staff
recommended that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution which denied the Conditional Use Permit, requested the
property owner to proceed with the subdivision and Site
Development Review, and determined that it was not necessary to
initiate rezoning procedures.
Mr. Tony Long, 15 Rockport Court, Danville, California,
representing Imperial Freeholds California lncorporated, stated
that they concur with the Planning Department findings and
recommendations. One change they asked the Commission to approve
was that the use as previously anticipated was consistent with
the draft General Plan policies.
Mr. Tong indicated that he had no problem with including such a
provision in the Resolution.
Commissioner Raley moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Barnes seconded the motion.
Commissioner Petty moved to adopt the resolution as amended,
which denied PA 84-055, A Request for a two year extension to
the 1491st Zoning Unit, Imperial Freeholds California
Incorporated.
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Voice vote found all in favor of adopting the amended resolution
denying the application.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-55
DENYING PA 84-055, A REQUEST FOR A TWO YEAR EXTENSION
TO THE 1491st ZONING UNIT, IMPERIAL
FREEHOLDS CALIFORNIA INCORPORATED
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SUBJECT: PA 84-051 Pak 'N Save Appeal of Planning Director's
action to approve PA 4-051 Pak 'N Save Site
Development Review
Mr. Tong presented the Staff Report which was an appeal of the
Planning Director's action to approve the Site Development Review
for Pak 'N Save to remodel an 84,000 sq. ft. building with
landscaping, parking, signing and truck dock improvements.
On November 1, 1984, the Planning Director approved a Site
Development Review application for Pak 'N Save. The Site
Development Review approval covered exterior modifications to the
structure, landscaping and signage improvements, as well as
requirements for dedication and access easements. The interior
modifications to the structures are not covered under the Site
Development Review. _
Mr. Angelo Gaspare, the property owner, appealed the action.
The main objections appeared to be 1) the dedication of right-
of-way along Dougherty Road, 2) the dedication of an easement for
cross access to the westerly parcel, and 3) any dedication or
granting of easement(s) at the driveway entrance across from
Dublin Court.
Chairman Alexander opened the public hearing.
Mr. Donald Gaube of Safeway and Pak 'N Save said that he, as the
applicant, did not have any problems with any of the conditions
of approval. The property owner, however, did have several
concerns.
Mr. Gaspare stated he had four concerns:
1- The dedication of 8 ft. of right-of-way along Dougherty Road
would impact the Union Oil Gas Station site, which he owns. A
service island would be wiped out. Mr. Gaspare wanted to know
the ultimate needs of the City. He would be willing to discuss a
lot line adjustment between the Pak 'N Save site and the Union
Oil site with the Staff.
2- T~e dedication of right-of-way at the entrance along Dublin
Boulevard across from Dublin Court should revert back to the
property owner if and when the entrance is abandoned by the City.
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3- The bus shelter easement along Dublin Boulevard should have
a maximum time frame during which the City should exercise its
option. Mr. Gaspare suggested a three year time frame for
discussion purposes.
4- Mr. Gaspare said he did not see any benefit from granting to
the City an easement for access to the westerly parcel. He was
receptive, however, to entering into a reciprocal access
agreement with the westerly property owner to provide cross
access.
Mr. Norm Miller, from Union 76, also stated his concerns, with an
8' dedication along Dougherty Road and questioned future
operational problems.
Mr. Dennis Sherry stated that a cross easement would make the two
parking areas easier to get in and out of.
Commissioner Raley moved to close and continue the meeting to the
December 17, 1984 Planning Commission Meeting. Seconded by
Commissioner Petty. The Planning Commission directed Staff to
meet with the applicant prior to the December 17th meeting so
that the issues could be resolved.
Voice vote found all in favor.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
SUBJECT: Sign Regulations
Mr. DeLuca noted that the Sign Committee's main problem with the
current ordinance appears to be one of format, organization and
wording. The Committee further stated that the most important
recommendation which the Sign Committee can make is that the
ordinance be rewritten in a more understandable manner and that
graphics be included to further clarify points which are
difficult to make by words alone.
The Planning Commission has been reviewing the Sign Regulations
with the overall intent of providing attractive and effective
identification.
Prior to drafting the Sign Regulations, Staff needs to receive
some direction from the Planning Commission on several issues.
Only 3 of the 10 listed issues were discussed.
1) Height of freestanding signs. The height of 15' or the
height of t e roof line, whichever is lower, was recommended to
the Commission by the Sign Committee. The Commission has
recently approved signs up to 20' in height.
Staff recommended that the maximum height of a freestanding sign
be 20' or the height of the roof line, whichever is lower.
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Mr. Robert Dunn stated he needed a freestanding directory sign.
The problem with his site was that it has the maximum signage
allowed under the existing ordinance. He asked the Planning
Commission to consider allowing him more signage.
Mr. Frank Clark, General Manager from Ozzie Davis, stated that a
Freeway Corridor signage is important because 90 - 95~ of the
purchasers lived outside of Dublin. He requested consideration
of a Freeway Corridor
Mr. Dick Franz said he thought the City's intent was to restrict
signs from being visible from the freeways.
Mr. Mark Harvey, of Dublin Honda stated there was limited access
to Dublin.
Mr. Rich Robbins from Shamrock Chrysler/Ford stated there was a
definite need for advertising. Over 90~ of their business came
from the outside communities. They settled for a 20' sign but
would have liked a taller sign.
Mr. Albert Lucas, who served on the Sign Committee, said it would
have been nice to have had the input when the Sign Committee was
meeting.
Mr. Bruce King, who also served on the Sign Committee, stated
that the 15' height limit was somewhat arbitrary, but that a
definite limit was needed. He agreed that a Freeway Corridor
might be considered. He also supported using the Site
Development Review process to regulate signs.
Ed Wright, 6305 Dougherty Road, also expressed a concern
regarding the signage for his property.
Mr. Clark said a 20 ft. height may be okay in town, but alonq the
freeway, he would like to have signs visible to freeway
travelers.
Mr. Harvey said a 20 ft. sign at Caspers could knock you out, but
a 20 ft. sign at the Honda Dealership would not be out of place.
Mr. Robbins said the City needed land marks or points of
reference to help orient out of town customers.
Mr. Bob Woolverton and Mr. Robbins stated that their companies
had standard signs.
Commissioner Mack and Chairman Alexander requested the auto
dealers and others to submit their companies'sign standards.
Mr. King said he would provide the company sign standards that he
had available.
Commissioner Raley requested Staff to check with other cities
regarding Freeway Corridors and the height of berms along
freeways in the City. '
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Mr. Stan Harrop said that if Freeway Signs were allowed, they
could not be restricted to just auto dealers. Other businesses
legitimately rely on outside sales.
Commissioner Raley asked if the auto dealers would be willing to
give up some wall signage in exchanged for freeway signage.
Mr. Clark said he was willing to give up the wall signage.
Mr. Robbins concurred.
Mr. Donald Sullivan of Howard Johnson's Motor Lodge said his case
was the converse. He would give up his freestanding sign for
additional wall signage.
2) Multi le freestandin si ns on one lot. Staff Comment:
Shopping Cen ers with 20 or more tenants may have multiple
freestanding identification signs. Otherwise, only one sign is
permitted. The Sign Regulations could be drafted so that multiple
signs are allowed for certain specific uses, such as automobile
dealerships, however this would be difficult to justify to other
- tenants in other retail commercial centers.
Staff recommends that the new Sign Regulations maintain the
provisions for multiple shopping center identification signs and
allow one freestanding sign per lot.
Mr. Robbins stated that he had two dealerships on one lot;
therefore he needed two freestanding signs.
Commissioner Raley commented that Mr. Robbin's situation was
unique because of the site control maintained by Ford Motor
Company.
John Babalot, Mr. Dunn, and Mike Laterotte all expressed concerns
regarding the multiple freestanding signs on one lot because
multiple tenants were involved.
3) Aesthetics. Staff Comment: The Sign Committee studied the
issue of sign aesthetics at great length. No formal
recommendation was made to the Planning Commission. The
disadvantage in regulation sign aesthetics is that the design
colors and materials of a sign are often very subjective matters
and differences of opinion can be expected.
Mr. King brought up the fact that other cities have a Design
Review Board. All signs are presented to a formal board for
approval. He also stated he did not want to see that occur in
Dublin, as it takes the process almost 3 to 4 weeks, which is
precious time for a businessman trying to open a new store.
Chairman Alexander asked Mr. King if he was opposed to a separate
Design Review Committee.
Mr. King stated he was. But he was for Site Development Review
for all signs.
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The Planning Commission concurred that all signs should be
subject to Site Development Review. Should someone be
dissatisfied with the Site Development Review Action, the action
could be appealed to the Planning Commission for resolution.
Chairman Alexander continued the discussion of the other sign
issues until December 17, 1984.
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NEW BUSINESS
None
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OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner Raley stated that all commissioners received in the
mail passes for the Snyfy Theaters. He asked if Staff was aware
of the passes.
Mr. Tong stated that he was not aware of the passes. He
suggested that the Planning Commission bring in one of the passes
so that Staff could check it for reporting purposes.
The Planning Commission raised the question of having two
optional resolution with each action item. The Planning
Commission did not reach concensus on the question.
Chairman Alexander asked if a utility lock out procedure would
have prevented the Sawmill situation. Staff indicated it did not
know for sure, but that the Sawmill had proceeded to install
their signs in spite of Staff's explicit directions to obtain
permission.
The Planning Commission raised the question of requiring Site
Development Review approval for all project in the City.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
11:30 p.m..
Respectfully submitted,
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Planr~ing ommission Chairman
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Laurence L. Tong,
Planning Director
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