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. Regular Meeting - 5eptember 29, 1992
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held
on September 29, 1992, in the Dublin Civic Center Council Chambers.
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Commissioner
Rafanelli.
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ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Barnes, Burnham, North, and Zika; Laurence L.
Tong, Planning Director; Dennis Carrington, Senior Planner; Brenda
Gillarde, Planning Consultant; Libby Silver, City Attorney; and Gail
Adams, Recording Secretary.
Absent: Commissioner Rafanelli
PUBLIC HEARING
SUBJECT: PA 87-031 Eastern Dublin General Plan Amendment, Specific
Plan, Draft Environmental Impact Report and related project
implementation includinq Amendment to the Sphere of
Influence, and Annexation to the City of Dublin and the
Dublin San Ramon Services District (DSRSD)
Cm. Zika indicated that this hearing had been continued from the
September 23rd meeting.
Mr. Tong indicated that the City`Council had taken action at their
last meeting that affected the meeting schedule for the Eastern Dublin
project. The Tri-Valley Transportation Council sent a letter to Staff
requesting a 45-day extension on the review period of the Draft EIR.
The Council denied this request; however, it did approve a 2-1/2 week
extension which extends the written comment review period on the Draft
EIR to October 29, 1992 at 5:00 p.m.
Mr. Tong indicated that the Council had cancelled their October 12th
meeting and created a special meeting for budget review on October
22nd. Staff had prepared a revised schedule for the Commission's
review.
Staff and the Commission reviewed the revised schedule for the Eastern
Dublin meetings. Various changes were noted and an updated schedule
will be completed by Staff.
Ms. Foscalina requested clarification on the difference between a
public hearing and a public meeting. Was there a difference between
the closing of oral comments and written comments?
Cm. Zika explained that the oral comment period would be closed on
October 15th and the written comment period had been extended to
October 29th at 5:00 p.m.
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. Mr. Tong further explained that both the written and oral comment
period for the Draft General Plan Amendment and Specific Plan would
close on October 15th.
Ms. Gillarde discussed the format for tonight's meeting and reiterated
that tonight's hearing would continue to review the adequacy of the
Draft EIR. Discussion would begin with Chapter #5 - Sewer, Water and
Storm Drainage and it was hoped that review of the Draft EIR would be
completed at this meeting. She requested that page numbers be
referenced when commenting on the Draft EIR so that Staff could
respond appropriately. A matrix would be used to help with the
comment process. She asked that comments be submitted in writing
which would help Staff respond quickly.
Cm. Zika reminded the audience that their comments were limited to
five minutes. He asked if there was any comments for Chapter 3.5
Mr. Bert Michalczyk of Dublin San Ramon Services District (DSRSD)
appreciated the time extension for written comments on the Draft EIR.
He introduced Georgeen Vonheeder and Tom McCormick who were board
members for DSRSD. He described the service district's role in the
planning process of the Eastern Dublin project, as defined under CEQA,
once the EIR was certified.
Mr. Michalczyk felt that the EIR was conservative in its impacts;
however he had some concerns regarding wastewater storage in the tri-
valley area and recommended this issue be addressed in the Draft EIR.
Ne reiterated the district's four policies: stabilize water supply;
service new development; coordinate with Zone 7; and insure customers
of adequate service.
Mr. Michalczyk indicated that DSRSD was currently evaluating supply
resources and felt that water sources would be made available for the
project. There was a sufficient water supply for the early part of
the development, up to 1997-98 calendar years. Eastern Dublin was a
long range project and the district was working on solving water
shortages on a long term basis.
Mr. Michalczyk stated that there was a Tri-Valley Wastewater Authority
(TWA) meeting scheduled for next month and TWA would be making
comments on the Draft EIR. DSRSD could not initiate a"will serve°
letter currently; however they were moving in that direction.
Ms. Marjorie LaBar had concerns with water shortages/supply. She
asked where was the water coming from and who would be paying for the
water supply needed for the Eastern Dublin praject. Zone 7 could not
get its water allotments from the State. The EIR shows that the Los
Banos reservoir would be built; however, the State has put this
project on hold.
Ms. LaBar had concerns with ground water recharge and felt that there
would be too much water drawn and asked how were these wells to be
recharged. She felt that the fringe basin was going dry and would not
be able to supply water to the area.
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• Ms. LaBar referred to page 3.5-15 and indicated that the Doolan Ranch
area had been excluded in the figures for water and sewage supply and
suggested that these figures be redone.
Ms. LaBar suggested that the Draft EIR look at a 50 year water supply.
She felt that if the development was completed in pieces, there was
the possibility that the water supply would run dry and no additional
development could be approved. No one is showing a sure source of
water and guarantees should be made before development occurs.
Ms. Morgan had questions regarding wastewater system improvements.
She referred to page 3.5-3 and asked: why was Doolan Canyon and City
of San Ramon excluded in the wastewater collection system figures and
will DSRSD serve the Dougherty Valley project with wastewater
collection as well as fresh water. There seemed to be a conflict on
if a computer model has or has not been used for the proposed system.
She asked if DSRSD has collected enough money to expand the treatment
plants; and if not, who will be paying for the expansion. Can
development occur before the plant is expanded and how long will it
take to expand? Is Pleasanton part of the expansion plans? How many
additional residents and housing units does 36 million gallons a day
of treatment capacity equal in the DSRSD service area?
Ms. Morgan referred to page 3.5-4 and indicated it was difficult to
understand the terminology and correlation regarding acre feet versus
gallons. She referred to IM 3.5/B and asked if the figure of 5.6
mgd included Doolan Canyon. What is the estimated units and
wastewater flow for poolan Canyon? She referred to IM 3.5/B-C and
felt that the system could be considered a significant growth inducing
impact. She referred to IM 3.5/G and asked how many dwelling units
and people could be developed with 61 mgd per day of sewage capacity.
She referred to IM 3.5-0 and felt that a groundwater basin map should
be included in the EIR to show their locations.
Ms. Morgan asked what the per unit hookup cost would be for the
existing DSRSD service area versus potential hookup cost when TWA is
built. What is the cost of treatment? What is the cost to buy into
the Central and Contra Costa Sanitation District? What is the cost to
buy the right-of-way for the TWA pipeline and storage facilities?
What is the capital cost of materials, maintenance and operation? If
bonds are to be used to buy into TWA, identify how the interest is to
be paid for the above items. Identify the source and interest
payments. How many units have to be built and sold each year to make
the bond payments? Who pays if the units are not built or sold? Will
the City's bond ratings be affected? Will buy-in with TWA cause DSRSD
to raise its rates to existing Dublin residents? Will Dublin
participate in TWA without the other tri-valley cities and at what
cost? If TWA is not built, identify source of sewage treatment,
costs, etc.
Ms. Morgan referred to maps 3.5B-3.5E and indicated that they do not
include any areas outside the Specific Plan and why this is so.
Reference was made to page 3.5-15 and asked if Zone 7 and DSRSD were
requesting the existing Dublin residents to conserve water. Will Zone
7 coordinate the water supply with DSRSD when pulling from groundwater
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~ wells? Is there a system to recharge to groundwater basin? Does
DSRSD have its own treatment plant? If not, who will treat D5RSD's
groundwater? If developers are able to dig their own wells, will they
pay to recharge them?
Mr. John Anderson was concerned that the EIR did not specify an
"active" control system which means that the water requests would need
to be made first before looking for water sources. An active control
system would be able to monitor the systems far in advance and
forecast what was needed in the future. There seemed to be a 300,000
gallon per day shortage without buildout of Eastern Dublin. The
Livermore area will be 25 million gallons per day short. Zone 7
claims that they would run short 8,000 acre feet by 1995 according to
ABAG. He suggested a regional committee or organization be
coordinated to look at an active control system, supply and demand of
water sources and supplies.
Doug Abbott referred to page 3.5-13 and Table 3.5-32 and noted the
residential consumption rates were different and hoped there was an
explanation for the discrepancy.
Bob Patterson commented that DSR5D's representative had indicated that
there were other water sources available and rates would increase and
these costs would be spread out over several years. It was his
understanding that rates would not be increased for existing residents
of Dublin. He noted that there would be excess water if the rates
were increased because people would not be able to afford to buy
water.
Vince Wong, Zone 7, complimented Staff and the consultants on the fine
job they had done on addressing the water issues in the Draft EIR. He
indicated he was prepared to work with Staff to respond to the
public's comments and was available tonight to answer any questions
the Planning Commission might have.
Mr. Michalczyk offered to meet with anyone from the public at the
DSRSD offices to assist in answering any of the public's questions.
The questions are good ones, some which have very precise answers,
some that are more complex. He commented that he would be working
with Staff and the consultants in responding to the comments presented
before the Commission.
Margaret Tracy presented a letter from EBMUD which had been addressed
to the City of San Ramon regarding their pougherty Valley project.
She stated from the letter that if the Draft EIR does not specify the
source of water it is legally deficient. She asked where the potable
water would be coming from?
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 3.6 - Soils, Geology, and Seismicity
and asked for public testimony.
Ms. LaBar questioned why documents from the California Department of
Mines and Geology and the California Water Quality Department were not
cited or used in the Draft EIR. These documents concerns slide
potential and instability of the land in the Eastern Dublin area. The
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• water department had previously proposed a dam in this area; however
they backed out because the area was not sufficiently stable. She was
concerned the City would be looking at liability claims once homes
were built in these areas.
Ms. LaBar had concerns regarding slide repair areas. She felt this
issue is not being addressed and felt that if the City stayed out of
these areas, there would be no need to repair the area and the
topography would not have to be changed.
Ms. Morgan concurred with Ms. LaBar and indicated the maps have been
available since the Notice of Preparation was completed. She
referred to page 3.6-4 where it showed Cottonwood Creek as being
intermittent and indicating that this stream had water in it all year
round. This stream feeds the fresh water marsh at the mouth of the
canyon. She distributed pictures to the Commission showing that there
was water in this stream.
Ms. Morgan referred to Mitigation #3.6-3 and asked how much of the
potentially unstable areas would be graded? Where is it deemed
necessary to remove the land slide areas? Will the developer be able
to remove the whole hill area? She referred to Mitigation #3-6.9 and
3-6.10 and had concerns with development being proposed on the
potential landslide areas. Are these areas considered safe in an area
with a history of land slides? Is the City liable once the developer
is gone? Is cluster development safe on landslide areas? She felt
the Commission should take a field trip into these unsafe areas before
making a decision on this project.
Ms. Foscalina requested that the maps from the State be identified in
the Draft EIR; they were very informative. She referred to a
situation in the Blackhawk area where one of the homes had cracks and
slumping problems. The home is only six years old and within the
drought years. The City will be liable once the developer is gone.
She mentioned the County was dealing with lawsuits regarding the
Pleasanton Ridge because of a similar situation.
Mr. Anderson felt that Chapter 3.6 was well written; however it is
lacking an evaluation of what would happen if several disasters
happened at one time. The document should consider all interactions
together; it was very rare that a single action would occur. He
suggested that the Army Corp of Engineers be contacted for a possible
model source of data.
Mr. Patterson indicated that the Eastern Dublin area was naturally a
swamp area and has witnessed in the past area flooding and overflow to
the highway. He asked if the drainage would be adequate for extra
heavy rain that will eventually occur? Is the drainage adequate for
the other side of the highway also?
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 3.7 - Biological Resources and asked
for public comment.
Ms. LaBar had concerns with the special species studies and felt that
the Draft EIR was inadequate in its studies of the kit fox, golden
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eagle, ground squirrel, and salamander habitats. She asked why the
Army Corp of Engineers did not receive a copy of the EIR since they do
research on endangered species. She felt there was a lack of
coordination with other agencies when studying the natural habitats
and the photographic studies were inadeguate. There have been
daylight sitings of kitfox in the areas and she reminded everyone that
if species were found while developing the land, the project would
stop dead and could take up to two years to resolve the issues. She
indicated that several species work together and urged an integrated
look at the mitigation plan.
Mr. Anderson referred to page 3.7-8 which stated that surveys of
special status invertebrates had not been completed. He asked if
these surveys were to be completed before the Final EIR or after with
conditions requiring such studies to be completed. There were four
species that were either endangered or threatened that would come
under these studies.
Ms. Morgan referred to Map #3.7-A and indicated that it showed the
area close to the mouth of Cottonwood Creek to be freshwater marsh.
She indicated that she had spoken to the Army Corps of Engineer and
they felt that they should receive a copy of the Draft EIR. She felt
that the studies completed in 1989 should be redone since they were
processed at the wrong time of the year. There were sitings of kit
fox, salamander, golden eagle, western pound turtle in the Doolan
Canyon area and urged that the studies be reexamined.
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 3.8 - Visual Resources
Ms. Foscalina commented that the EIR states the mitigation of the
visual resources; however the Planning Commission and City Council
needed to make a decision on what was important to them, not the
developer. The developer would take the easy way out.
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 3.9 - Cultural Resources
Mr. Anderson indicated that studies back in 1985 had discovered
surface artifacts and that ARS Archaeologists speculated the sites
were used for an Indian vegetable resource gathering site. He
questioned if the site would be studied using a backhoe prior to EIR
approval.
Ms. LaBar had concerns with the noise studies in relation to Camp
Parks and Alameda County Sheriff's Department firing range. Most of
the complaints are coming from the firing range, not Camp Parks and
additional noise studies were needed. She noted the upper corner of
the Camp Parks area as being a economic resource. She indicated she
would make additional comments in writing.
Ms. Morgan referred to IM 3.10.C and indicated her concerns with the
noise caused by the Livermore Airport. She indicated there were very
few residents that lived in the proposed airport zone north of I-580;
however, a gentlemen who does live in that vicinity has been
complaining about the noise since 1950. She felt that the City should
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hold off on their development plans until the airport commission has
completed their studies.
The Commission took a 10-minute break. Upon returning, Cm. Zika
continued onto Chapter 3.11 - Air Quality.
Mr. Harvey Scudder indicated there were no adequate standards for
pollutants, auto exhaust, and air quality. There was too much exhaust
already and there would be an enormous impact when the level of
service decreased, with cars waiting on the freeway. There would be a
slow process in making people walk versus using automobiles and felt
we were not ready for this transition. He was concerned with people's
health, photochemical smog. There was a need to look at these concern
on a regional basis and felt there was a need to be more sensitive to
quality of air.
Ms. LaBar referred to Table 3.11-3 on page 3.11-9 and indicated that
contribution from the I-580 freeway is not shown, only the ramps. It
is difficult to imagine what the impacts of the congested freeway will
have on the proposed development. Was the Dougherty Valley
development taken into consideration? The table does not show impacts
on the downtown Dublin area and suggested the figures consider Dublin
Boulevard through San Ramon Road, with the three major intersections
in between these streets, as well as Tassajara all the way up to the
county line. She felt the table show enough of the impacts that could
be felt outside of the immediate planning area.
Mr. Abbott referred to page 3.11-5 and observed that the mitigations
shown were very generalized and there should be real mitigations which
would establish clear, quantitative connections between permit
approvals and air quality or traffic congestion.
Ms. Morgan had concerns with the ozone and air quality standards.
There have been more adverse days this year than any year before and
it will continue to get worse. She felt it was time for someone to
address this issue before we can see the air but not be able to breath
it.
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 3.12 - Fiscal Considerations and asked
for public comments.
Ms. LaBar had concerns with "Mello-Roos" and other impact fees. Would
this system be used? How many units would need to be sold to cover
the initial cost of needed infrastructure? How much development has
to occur to insure that there are revenues to pay back bonds? She
urged the City to review what happened to other cities when the
recession hit. Where does TWA fit into this? Are these costs
absorbed by new residents? How many dwelling units will it take? The
City is committed to having development pay for itself. How is this
development to be financed? She indicated there was not enough
information in the EIR and felt there was a need for more review. She
asked if something went wrong, what would happen to the City's bond
rating? She was concerned the City will weaken its tax base and
credit standing.
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Ms. Morgan concurred with Ms. LaBar. She asked where the funds would
be coming from to pay for the bonds? If they were coming from the
general fund, the existing residents of Dublin would be paying far
Eastern Dublin development. She felt this information needed to be
clarified.
Ms. Foscalina had concerns with how assessment districts were setup.
She felt that fees should be charged per unit, not by footage. This
format benefits the developer and the residents would lose.
Cm. Zika continued onto Chapter 4.0 - Alternative Analysis and asked
for public testimony.
Ms. Labor asked if anyone had consulted the County regarding their
"Santa Rita" property. She indicated it was difficult to analyze the
alternatives without solid figures for this site. She wanted to see
alternative discussions that would keep the denser downtown
development, the commercial development along the freeway frontage,
and limitations on most of the development up Tassajara and the
proposed rural residential areas. These areas might cut out a lot of
the infrastructure costs.
Ms. Morgan concurred with Ms. LaBar and felt this would be a better
alternative. She felt the City has a responsibility to create a plan
that will not impact all aspects - water, sewage shortages, reduced
air quality, lack of mobility on roads. Bigger does not always mean
better and felt that the City should cut down the size and their
expectations and reserve the area for the existing residents.
Cm. Zika continued to Chapter 5.0 - CEQA - Mandated Considerations and
asked for public input.
Ms. LaBar referred to page 5.0-3 and 5.0-4 and felt the cumulative
impacts on the freeways did not have any real mitigations, for
example, Caltrans had no funds to constructs additional freeway lanes.
This creates an unavoidable significant impact. She referred to page
5.0-5 and felt there should be more detail on buffer zones for fire
safety, i.e., how these buffer zones are to be approached and who will
pay for their upkeep.
Ms. LaBar referred to page 5.0-7/8 - Water Impacts. She asked what
would happen if Zone 7 does not get enough water from the State and
the State does not have the funds to build Los Banos or expand Del
Valle. Is the City going to need to pay for portions of this water?
Ms. LaBar had concerns with the groundwater recharge shown on page
5.0-9 and asked where the water would be coming from once the
groundwater is depleted. Where were the real mitigations? There were
no direct policies regarding groundwater recharge.
Ms. LaBar referred to page 5.0-12 and had concerns with biological
impacts, with loss of foraging or the lack of maintenance on these
areas. There are no unifying mitigation principles.
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• Ms. LaBar indicated that the growth inducing impacts have not been
addressed and suggested that further alternative analysis be done.
She had concerns with the Williamson Act contracts where too much
pressure was being put on people to cancel their agreements. She
indicated that some farm operations can conflict with development and
this issue needs to be addressed.
Ms. LaBar indicated she would have written responses to other CEQA
mandated issues.
Ms. Morgan felt that the impacts in the Draft EIR have not been
adequately addressed. There is no such thing as an unavoidable
significant impact; the impact can be addressed by not building the
project and should be readdressed.
Cm. Zika continued the public hearing on the Draft General Plan
Amendment to October 1, 1992 at 7:00 p.m.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Laurence L. Tong
Planning Director
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