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Reaular Meeting - March 21, 1994
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held
on l~iarch 21, 1994, in the Dublin Civic Center Council Chambers. The
meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Commissioner North.
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ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Downey, North, Rafanelli and Zika; Laurence L.
Tong, Planning Director; Der~nis Carrington, 5enior Planner; David
Choy, Associate Planner; and Fawn Holman, Recording Secretary.
Absent: Commissioner Burnham
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Cm. North led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the pledge
of allegiance to the f lag.
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ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE AGENDA
The minutes for March 7, 1994, were approved as submitted.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
David Choy, Associate Planner announced his decision to accept a
position with City of Union City. He thanked the Commission and
indicated his enjoyment working with them.
Commission congratulated Mr. Choy on his new position and wished him
the best of luck. They thanked him for his dedication and excellent
contributions to the Planning Department.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None
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PUBLIC HEARING
SUBJECT: PA 93-062 City of Dublin Siqn Ordinance Revision Project
proposal to amend the Zonina Ordinance pertaining to the
regulation of si~ns (continued from 3/7/94 PC meetina).
Cm. Downey asked for clarification as to the Commission's
recommendation regarding l~ttering on both sides of monument signs.
Would the sign be required to have the same informatian on both sides?
Mr. Carrington clarified that the Commission had recommended the
ordinance indicate "per side."
Cm. North read pertinent portions of page 24 of the March 7th minutes
regarding Commission's recommendations and indicated that, although
they had not discussed it, the lettering size and content should be
the same on both sides.
Commission briefly discussed the suggestion and indicated that the
sign could be the same on both sides.
Cm. North opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
BANNERS AND FLAGS
David Choy presented the banners and flags pnrtion of the staff
report.
Cm. Zika asked if a banner would be inspected far presentability every
time an Applicant applied for a permit.
Mr. Choy indicated that such a condition could be built into the
process. He indicated that the Sign Ordinanc~ Task Force was also
concerned about permanent flags/banners becaming tattered or shabby
and wanted to make sure they were replaced on a regular basis.
Cm. Zika suggested banners and flags also have a 45/45 day split so
they could be inspected.
Mr. Choy understood from the Sign Task Force that it was difficult for
businesses to put up and take down banners/flags every 2-3 days. They
would rather be allowed to have continuous display for a longer period
of time.
Cm. Zika had no problem with the suggestion; however, was concerned
about the City's control in getting the banners/flags replaced when
they became tattered.
Mr. Choy suggested a permit subject to yearly review. The Task Force
had suggested that Staff mail out reminder notices to businesses whose
one-year permits were about the expire.
Cm. Zika wondered if a banner/flag would last as long as a year, but
thought a quarterly replacement schedule might be a undue burden to
the business owner.
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Cm. North pointed out that it would depend on the type of material
used on the banner/flag. He questioned the City's enforcement of a
quarterly or semi-annual review.
Cm. Downey preferred the yearly permit which would be more convenient
for business owners, as long as the banner/flag was well-maintained.
He felt owners would keep their banners/flags nice-lookinq in order to
attract business.
Cm. Zika disagreed that all businesses would keep their banners/flags
well-maintained, siting several examples.
Commission and Staff discussed the difference between banners/flags
and temporary promotional display, and indicated that banners/flags
were decorative pennants or colored flags with the sole purpose of
drawing attention to a shopping center. Whereas, temporary
promotional signs were intended for individual business owners to
promote special events or sales (i.e., "grand-opening", "sale today",
etc.)
Commission continued the discussion of banners/flags and indicated
that a shopping center could have banners/flags which had no verbiage,
except the shopping center's name, and could be subject to semi-annual
review.
Cm. North referred to the proposed 45/45 day split and asked for
comments from the audience.
Maureen Nokes, Hometown Brokers and Sign Task Force member, asked if
the 45 days would be continuous days.
Cm. North indicated that it would be 45 days a year.
Commission and Staff discussed the difficulties of enforcing the
current ordinance and how enforcement of the 45/45 day split method
could also be difficult.
Mr. Carrington suggested allawing a businesses to display temporary
promotional signage for 30 days on/15 days off throughout the year. A
business would need to come in for a Zoning Clearance for each 30-day
permit.
Commission and Staff discussed the suggestion and indicated that
business owners could get a Zoning Clearance for 30 days on/15 days
off, with Staff utilizing a tickler file to mail out postcards
reminding businesses when their 30 days were up.
John Bevilaqua, American Speedy Printing and Sign Task Force member,
suggested letting business owners choose between two options: allowing
weekend and holiday permits an a yearly basis or a permit allowing 30
days of promotional signage ev~ry 90 days.
Commission and Staff discussed the suggestion and thought it was too
complicated.
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Mr. Tong suggested the 30 day on/15 day off permit; it was the most
workable and most businesses would not utilize the permit to its full
extent.
Commission discussed the suggestion and indicated that a business
could obtain a Zoning Clearance for each 30 day on/15 day off
promotional display, which would include a condition specifying that
the banner must be well-maintained.
SIMPLIFYING SIGN PERMIT APPLICATION~PROCESSING
Mr. Choy presented the portion of the staff report regarding
simplifying sign permit application/processing. Staff suggested
utilizing more generous and clear standards for sign size on
automatically permitted signs as a method of both simplifying the
application process and reducing sign permit processing time,
Cm. North asked if the guidelines were more flexibYe, would decisions
still be appealable to the Planning Cammission or City Council.
Mr. Choy indicated that the decision would still be appealable;
however, clear and concise standards might preclude the need ta
appeal.
Cm. Zika asked what the recommended standards would be.
Mr. Choy indicated that Staff was Currently preparing the recommended
standards.
Cm. North indicated that the Applicant needed to be informed that they
could appeal the decision if they felt it was necessary.
Cm. Zika asked how the general public would know about any decisions
to be made and how to appeal those decisions, if they felt necessary.
Mr. Choy indicated that the public would be informed through the
public notice process.
Commission discussed the recommendations and indicated that Staff
could utilize more generous and clear standards which would allow
Staff to grant more administrative approvals of sign requests.
Mr. Choy indicated that a suggestion had been made to waive the
requirement to provide a site plan with the application, since the
City frequently had copies of the site plan in their e~istirig files.
It would simplify the process for the Applicants; however, it would
shift the burden of generating an accurate site plan to Staff. He
further indicated that the architect's copyright on the site plan was
a legal issue to take into consideration.
Cm. North did not want to overburden an already sho~t-staffed
department and recommended that the Applicant continue to provide the
site plan, at least until the Planning Department had more staff.
Don Johnson, Sign Ordinance Task Force member, suggested that a site
plan not be required for a sign on an existing building, only for a
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new building. He questioned why the Applicant should be burdened with
the expense of paying an architect for information that the City
already had in their files.
Mr. Tong clarified that Staff cannot photocopy an architect's site
plan to sell or give to an Applicant. Howe~ver, Staff could show the
Applicant an approved site plan, and the Applicant could copy the
dimensions and make their own drawings for submittal.
Mr. Johnson did not understand why a new site plan would be needed for
an existing building which had an approved site plan in the City
files.
Mr. Choy pointed out that part of the issue may be mitigated when the
standards for automatically permitted signs were increased.
Typically, a site plan was required only when a formal applicatian was
submitted.
Commission and Staff discussed the issue and indicated that because
the recommended changes to the sign ordinance could mitigate the site
plan issue the requirement should remain the same for the time being.
ENFORCEMENT
Mr. Choy presented the enforcement portion of the staff report,
indicating that the majority of the Sign Task Force memb~rs felt that
stricter enforcement by the City, parti~ularly in the case of
temporary or promotional signage, was warranted.
Cm. North pointed out that the proposed reminder postcards would help
relieve the problem.
Cm. Rafanelli asked what penalties were currently imposed on business
owners.
Ralph Kachadourian, Zoning Investigator, explained the current
enforcement policies and procedures included letters, warning notices
and citations, indicating that actinn was taken on a complaint basis
only.
Cm. North suggested putting "teeth" in the ordinance by not allowing
violators to obtain another permit for 60-90 days.
Commission, after discussion with the Sign Task Force members and
Staff, indicated that if the sign ordinance was amended as proposed,
the 30 days on/15 days off, along with mailing reminder postcards when
it was time to remove the promotional display, could mitigate most of
the problem.
Cm. North asked the Sign Task ForCe members to remind other Chamber of
Commerce members that, in the meantime, they should call the Zoning
Investigator to complain about businesses abusing the current
promotional display regulations.
Commission, with comments from Staff, discussed vehicles (especially
old, junky vans) used as signage and indicated that businesses could
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park the vehicles in front during store hours only. After hours they
would have to be parked behind the business; thereby, alleviating the
problem of non-operative vehicles being utilized as signage. If no
parking was available behind the business, the vehicle would have to
be parked in the space closest to the business.
NON-CONFORMING SIGNS
Mr. Choy presented the non-conforming sign portion af the staff
report, indicating that the Sign Task Farce recommended that any non-
conforming signs created as a result of the previously amended sign
ordinance be grandfathered in as legal non-conforming uses. The Task
Force also recommended that the three existing non-conforming signs
(Corwood Carwash, Custom Fireplace and Patio, and the Busick Air
Conditioning Company) also be grandfathered.
Cm. North recalled that a large amount of complaints were made
regarding the requirement for all signs to comply with the last change
in the sign ordinance. He had no problem with grandfathering in any
existing non-conforming signs this time.
Cm. Rafanelli concurred with the suggestion.
Cm. Downey concurred with the suggestion.
Cm. Zika was concerned that Corwood Carwash weuld be allowed tn have a
sign twice as large as any other carwash in the area, which would
result in unfair competition.
Cm. North indicated that Corwood Carwash had had the sign for many
years and he was concerned about the financial impact of requiring
them to change their sign.
Cm. Zika pointed out that in granting a Variance, Staff had to make
several findings, one of which proved that an individual was not being
granted a special privilege. In his opinian, this would be a special
privilege.
Cm. Downey asked Staff if any complaints regarding the Corwood Carwash
sign had been made by the other businesses.
Mr. Kachadourian indicated that no complaints had been made; although,
several businesses had asked why they could not have similar signage.
Cm. North asked Staff if the City could legally modify the sign
ordinance and require a business ta pay fo~ new sigris.
Mr. Tong indicated that yes, in terms of the madifications to the
previous sign ordinance, it was legal. The Planning Staf~ worked
closely with the City Attorney to make sure the amortization p~riod,
as well as all other aspects, was legal. At this point, Staff did not
know if the proposed modifications to the sign or~inance would make
the three existing non-conforming signs legal. However, the Sign Task
Force had suggested that the signs be grandfathered in, reqardless of
whether they could be made legal or not.
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Cm. Zika pointed out that other businesses with non-canforming signs
had been required to change signs, and they had complied. Why should
the City grandfather these signs in when the business owners refused
to comply with the previous sign ordinance amendment.
Cm. Rafanelli indicated that, after realizing that other businesses
had already spent money to conform to the previous sign ordinance
amendment, the businesses which still had non--conft~rming signs should
also be required to conform.
Cm. North pointed out that the Task Force, who were representatives of
our business community, had recommended that the three businesses with
the non-conforming signs be grandfathered in.
Commission discussed the issue and indicated that a decision could be
made after it was clear how the proposed sign ordinance amendments
would affect the existing non-conforming signs.
Mr. Choy referred to Attachment 1 of the March 21st staff report,
indicating that a new issue had been brought up by Ronald Nahas, real
estate developer, which requested the use of directional signs on
major arterial roads which would direct trafFic ta major businesses
not located on the major roads, Staff had cancerns regardinc~ the
regulation of the number and placement of directianal signs if they
were allowed for all businesses.
Commission and Staff discussed the suggestian, expressing concern
about a proliferation of small, hard-to-see signs all over the city.
Ms. Nokes commented that if Mr. Nahas' suggestion stemmed from the
need to rent apartments/condos, the problem may be mitigated if the
proposed real estate signage changes to the sign ordinance were
adopted. The changes would allow the apartment/condo complexes to put
out A-frame signs on the major arterial roads during the weekend.
Commission discussed the suggestian and indicated that the
apartment/condo complexes could follow the real estate signage changes
if adopted, and recommended that no small blue directional signs be
allowed.
Cm. North asked for additional comments before the public hearing was
closed.
Mr. Tong indicated that a draft sign ordinance, as weli as input from
the Sign Task Force, would be brought to the May 2nd meeting.
Cm. North continued the sign ordinance public hearing to the May 2,
1994, Planning Commission meeting. He suggested that Staff send a
response letter to Mr. Nahas, indicating that the Commission chose not
to follow his suggestion regarding directional signs, at this time.
Mr. Johnson commended the Commission and Staff for their support of
the Sign Task Force's suggestions. He, on behalf of the Sign Task
Force, asked the Planning Commission to direct Staff to rewrite the
entire ordinance, rather than making amendments, to streamline the
ordinance.
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Commission discussed the suggestion and indicated that Staff, by
deleting duplications and utilizing a matrix, the ordinance would be,
in essence, rewritten.
Commission thanked the Task Farce for their participation.
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NEW OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS
SUBJECT: Chanqes in the Ralph M. Brown Act ~Government Code Section
54950 et. sea.)
Cm. North asked for the staff report.
Mr. Tong presented the staff report, indicating that Staff recammended
that the Commission discuss the amendments and adopt the draft
resolution incorporating the required changes, which would go into
effect on April 1, 1994, into the rules of procedure.
Cm. North referred to page 2 of the draft resolution and indicated
that neither he, nor two prior chairpersons, had ever approved an
agenda prior to distribution. He suggested the requirement be
deleted.
Mr. Tong indicated that since the Planning Cammissian SeCretary had
taken on that responsibility, the requirement could be modified or
deleted.
Commission and Staff discussed the issue, as well as several other
chairperson's duties, and indicated that the item which required the
chairperson to approve the agenda prior to distribution could be
deleted.
Cm. North referred to page 6 of the City Attorney's memo and asked for
clarification regarding the agenda's inclusion of an item far
councilmember and staff informational reports.
Mr. Tong referred to page 4 of the rules of pracedures and indicated
that item 10, as of April 1st, would be captioned "Other Business
(Commission/Staff Informational Only Reports)."
Mr. Tong further noted that "Commissioners' Concerns" would no longer
appear on the agenda.
Cm. North asked if the Commissioners would no longer be able to
express their concerns.
Mr. Tong clarified that the Commissioners' concerns would be
incorporated into Other Business.
Cm. Downey pointed out that if an item wa~ n~t on the agenda, it could
not be discussed.
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Cm. North indicated that the Brown Act amendments were well-covered at
the Planners' Institute and recammended that those Commissioners who
did not attend the Institute receive copies of the Brown Act section
of the book.
Mr. Tong concurred with the suggestion.
On motion from Cm. Rafanelli, secanded by Cm. Downey, including the
deletion of item 3 of the chairpersan's duties, and with a vote of
5-0, the Planning Commission adopted
RESOLUTION 94 - 10
AMENDING AND ADOPTING THE D~JBLIN
PLANNING COMMISSION RULES OF P~20CEDURE
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OTHER BUSINESS
None
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COMMISSIONERS' CONCERNS
Cm. Zika asked for an update as to the Commission~r's cancerns
regarding the Psychic Faire.
Mr. Tong indicated that the sic~nage and parking concerns had been
relayed to the Parks and Recreation Staff. It was his understanding
that, in the future, Recreation Staff would inform future tenants
(including the Psychic Faire) what the building's capa~ity and maximum
number of parking spaces were.
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ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectful.ly submitted,
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Plannin ommission Chairperson
Laurence L. Tong
Planning Director
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