HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-05-1991 PCSC Approved Minutes CITY OF DUBLIN
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING DATE: NOVEMBER 5, 1991
The November 5, 1991 meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission was
called to order at 7: 30p.m. at the Civic Center, Dublin, California, by
Vice-Chairperson, Steve Jones.
Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of allegiance was led by Commissioner Jones.
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Jones, Donnell , Sbranti, Lockhart and Cahn
Absent: Commissioner Downey
Oral Communications
Rick Wendling, Youth Soccer, thanked the Commission for having such good
people working on their staff. He reported that a tour was conducted of
the sports grounds recently to look for hazards. Great progress has been
made in correcting those conditions that could have been hazardous.
Mr. Wendling stated that he hoped that soccer will continue to have a good
working relationship with the Parks & Recreation Department and the
Commission. Mr. Wendling requested copies of the last agenda and minutes.
Written Communications - None
Approval of Minutes
IT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER DONNELL AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SBRANTI
TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 8 , 1991 AS SUBMITTED. (UNANIMOUS)
New Business None
Old Business
Review of Use Policies for City Facilities
At the October 8, 1991 meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission, the
Commission reviewed the existing policies for City facilities and discussed
the methodology to be utilized in revising the policies. As a result,
Staff was directed to develop a standardized format to be used in each
policy.
Diane stated that generally Staff has not proposed any substantive changes
to the policies and procedures in existence at each facility. She briefly
reviewed each revised policy for the Commission.
Civic Center
Diane stated that the Civic Center policy was used as a sample format for
the other policies, as it is the newest of all the policies and the easiest
to read and comprehend. The roman numerals for classifications were
replaced with group numbers, and condensed from 10 classifications to 6.
Commissioner Cahn voiced concern regarding the number of adults to minors
as stated in Regulation #3. He felt that in case of an emergency, there
should be a minimum of 2 adults per 20 minors, leaving at least one adult
to supervise while the other handled the emergency situation. Commissioner
Lockhart and Sbranti concurred. Diane stated that the regulation could be
revised to include "with a minimum of two adults present at all times" .
Dublin Senior Center
Diane stated that the Commission had met with the Senior Advisory Committee
at the time that the original policy for the Senior Center was developed.
The Advisory Committee at that time felt very strongly about how the Center
should be used. They were concerned about opening up the use of the
kitchen and the refrigerator, as well as the serving and consumption of
alcohol. Therefore, these items were restricted and are addressed in the
current policy under the Rules and Regulations, items 11 & 12.
MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 1991
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Commissioner Lockhart asked why the cooking facilities and refrigerator
cannot be used by rentals. Diane replied that the refrigerator is kept
locked, as it contains food supplies for the seniors meals program. As for
the cooking facilities, the cupboards that house the seniors cooking
utensils would have to have locks installed. Most importantly, the Health
Department inspects the kitchen periodically, therefore we have to regulate
its use.
The revised policy utilizes the same classifications as the Civic Center
however, priority is given in all classifications to groups either
comprised of senior adults or serving senior adults. However, if the
facility were vacant, a group could be scheduled to use it. There have
been very few requests for use of the Senior Center since the policy was
established.
Commissioner Lockhart inquired as to why Section 2, Items a, b & c under
Classification of Users was deleted? Diane replied that the closing
statement at the bottom of the policy encompasses this section.
Commissioner Lockhart felt that the rewording was alot better.
Commissioner Donnell asked if a rental were to book the Center for a
private event, would they be permitted to remove items to accommodate their
decorations, etc.? Diane stated that groups would have to work around the
senior equipment that is within the facility, and staff would not permit
removal of senior equipment to accommodate their use.
Commissioner Lockhart stated that with staff and the Commission trying to
standardize the policies, he did not feel that it is right for the Advisory
Committee to be allowed to tell us what we can and cannot put in a policy.
Commissioner Jones indicated that he understands what Commissioner Lockhart
is saying, however the facility is unique in that it is mainly for senior
use.
Commissioner Lockhart stated that it is City property that is opened to the
public and should be governed by the same rules and regulations as other
City facilities.
Commissioner Cahn stated that the Senior Center is different than the other
facilities, as it has its own Advisory Committee. Since the City Council
does not make decisions without the Parks & Recreation Commissions input,
we should not be making decisions for the Senior Center without their
input. The Commission may not agree with their input, but their input is
valuable.
Diane stated that there are certain stipulations that staff and the
Commission will need to look at, based on the individual facility. Because
of the specialized nature of the Center, there maybe special regulations
that need to be put into effect. The Commission needs to go back to the
Advisory Committee with the revised policy and identify the issues that the
Commission feels are important to discuss.
Dublin Swim Center
The pool is very rarely rented for private functions, as it is booked
solidly with City sponsored activities. However a policy should be in
place for those interested in renting the facility. The rentals that have
occurred in the past, include churches, Boy Scouts, Little League and
private individuals.
The Commission concurred that priority of use as listed in the revised
policy is satisfactory.
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Commissioner Cahn questioned the ratio of lifeguards for public swimming
and for groups that rent the facility. Diane stated that the ratio for
public swimming is currently 1 to 50 . However, if a group rents the pool ,
they have to utilize City lifeguards also. In most cases , the pool is
staffed with at least 2-3 lifeguards.
Shannon Community Center
Diane stated that Shannon Center is the facility that is rented out the
most and also used the most. The two areas of the policy that were
revised, includes the classification of users and the timeframe for
rentals.
Classification of Users
The classification of users basically remained the same. The number of
classifications were changed from roman numerals I-VII to group numbers
1-6 , the same as the other policies. The City may book one year in advance
to the date requested. Public Agencies , the Dublin Chamber of Commerce,
Community Groups and Resident Private Individuals or Groups may book one
year in advance for weekend use and 3 months in advance for weekday use.
Non-Resident Community Groups and Private Individuals or Groups may book
nine months in advance for weekend use and three months for weekday use.
Commercial Groups may book six months in advance for weekend use and three
months in advance for weekday use.
Commissioner Donnell asked if there is a minimum timeframe? Diane replied,
30 days, which is listed under the Reservation Procedures. This was
changed from the 15 working days, because it is difficult to schedule the
part-time building attendants and obtain insurance information.
Continuous Use
Diane stated that something that has not been considered for any of the
policies , is continuous use of the facilities. When the City first took
over Shannon Center, there were a number of groups that booked the facility
on a continuous basis. Staff has found that this type of use really tied
the City hands in terms of scheduling use of the facilities .
When the policy was revised three years ago, the continuous use was deleted
from the policy, except for continuous use by non-profit Dublin based
organizations, which was permitted on a quarterly basis. It has been found
that most groups do not wish to schedule use this way, as they want to book
for at least a year at a time.
Commissioner Jones asked if this use is hurting us in the long run, in
regards to generating income? Diane replied that she did not think so, as
the fees charged for continuous use are minimal .
Commissioner Cahn felt that continuous use is for the good of the
community. If a group had to be bumped to accommodate a City program,
there are other rooms within Shannon that they could be relocated to.
These groups would be a continued source of income.
Diane stated that if the policy was opened to accommodate continuous use ,
she would recommend that it be permitted during the week, but not on the
weekends. Weekend use is more in demand and would also generate more
revenue.
Commissioner Sbranti asked if Shannon were not available for continuous
use, would the Senior Center then be recommended? Diane stated that the
current policy would not allow that type of use. Currently, Shannon Center
is the only facility that has a clause for continuous use. The Civic
Center policy does not even address continuous use. The Shannon Center
policy limits continuous use to Dublin based non-profit groups using the
facility for educational or recreational purposes.
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A church group requested use of Shannon Center over 18 months ago.
Even though they were Dublin based and had non-profit status, when the City
attorney reviewed it, they determined that according to the current policy,
use must be for educational or recreational purposes. The church group
would be using the facility for religious purposes, and therefore they do
not fit within the current policy.
Commissioner Cahn asked if churches are permitted to use public school
facilities? Diane replied that the School District policy does not permit
this type of group to book the facilities more than four times a year.
Commissioner Donnell stated that Diane's recommendation of making
continuous use available only during the week and not weekends is
reasonable. Commissioner Sbranti concurred.
Commissioner Sbranti asked which use would generate more revenue, the
consistent income from the continuous users or the individual rentals?
Diane replied that under the current fee schedule, individual users
generally generate more revenue.
Commissioner Cahn stated that the facility is not to generate revenue, but
rather to serve the maximum number of people. Diane stated that the
facility may not be to generate revenue, but the intent is to cover costs.
Commissioner Jones stated that according to the current policy, use is not
open to the senior groups that are currently at Shannon now. Diane stated
that this is true, however use by these groups was "grandfathered" in at
the time the City took over the facility. The situation with the senior
groups at this time, is that we do not have a set agreement with groups,
and the fees paid are not within the current policy. Some type of
agreement needs to be in place that clearly indicates that their use must
be in accordance with certain rules.
Commissioner Donnell asked if there are alot of requests by groups for
continuous use during the week? Diane replied, that at one time we did,
however now that reservations are only permitted on a quarterly basis,
requests have dropped.
Commissioner Lockhart stated that within the revised policies, the senior
groups currently meeting on a weekly basis at Shannon would be permitted to
apply for use up to 3 months in advance. Diane indicated that the revised
policy does not presently address continuous use, as input from the
Commission is requested.
Commissioner Lockhart did not feel that the City can build in alot of rules
and regulations to fit the needs of the groups. The groups need to fit the
City's rules and regulations. Diane agreed, but felt that we need a policy
that is workable from their standpoint.
Commissioner Cahn recommended that staff prepare a section dealing with
continuous use for the Commissions review.
Diane stated that for the December 10 meeting, Staff will bring back a
proposed section on continuous use for all the policies, and the proposed
policy for the Sports Grounds. She indicated that she would like to get a
concensus from the Commission on the policies and then discuss the fees at
the January meeting.
MINUTES - November 5, 1991
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Other Business
Commissioner Sbranti asked how the Teen Center is going at Wells?
Diane stated that it is off to a slow start. Alot of kids stop by, but
when they learn about the $15.00 fee they leave. Information on the
program and fees were distributed to parents in the newsletter. Hopefully
parents will pay the fee for their teen to participate in the program.
Staff will review the fees for this program next year.
Staff Reports
Diane reported that the Town of Danville, the City of San Ramon and City of
Dublin on an annual basis, get together to meet and have dinner. It is the
City of Dublins turn to host this event. The other cities will be
contacted to come up with a date. As the hosting City, we will have to
provide dinner and decide on a program. Last year the subject was trails.
Some suggestions topics maybe open space planning or community growth.
The event can be catered and held here at the Civic Center on the Regional
Meeting Room. Diane indicated that she will come up with some dates and
contact the Commission as to their availability.
The Annual Tree Lighting Ceremony is scheduled on Monday, December 2 here
at the Civic Center at 6:30p.m.
Adjournment
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:30p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Char J. You
Administrative Secretary