HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-06-1990 Adopted CC Min Study SessionSPECIAL WORKSHOP STUDY SESSION MEETING - December 6, 1990
A special joint Dublin Planning Commission and City CoUncil workshop
study session meeting was held on December 6, 1990, in the Council
Chambers of the Dublin Civic Center. The meeting was called to order
at 7:00 p.m., by Mayor Snyder.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Councilmembers Burton, Howard, Jeffery, Moffatt, and Mayor
Snyder; Planning Commissioner Burnham.
ABSENT: Commissioners Barnes and Zika.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Mayor led the Council, Staff and those present in the pledge of
allegiance to the flag.
EAST DUBLIN PLANNING WORKSHOP
Planning Consultant Brenda Gillarde recapped the last meeting
(Workshop #1) held on November 15, 1990. Among the topics discussed
were positive attributes about existing Dublin. Comments made
included easy access to shopping, good mix of housing, city close but
country quiet, excellent schools, and uncluttered hills and open
space. Some ideas for the future Dublin were also discussed,
including additional recreational facilities, access to open space,
additional transportation, a retail/commercial core, mixed densities,
affordable housing for the homeless/seniors, housing affordability for
local workers, pedestrian pockets and utilization of the frontage of
1-580.
Arlene Willits discussed the procedures for the meeting and indicated
that this meeting would not be the final opportunity for public input
and requested that the public be aware of their time on the floor in
order to give everyone an opportunity to speak.
Steve Hammond, WRT, gave background information regarding office,
industrial and business parks.
The Council, Commission and members of the audience were asked what
type of employment generating uses were needed and the desired
jobs/housing balance. Mr. Hammond advised that the real estate market
should be considered when deciding how much additional office/business
park space will be developed.
Commissioner Burnham asked what the current percentage of business
versus residential development was in Dublin.
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Mr. Tong, Planning Director, indicated that there were approximately
400-600 acres of non-residential development in Dublin which equaled
one-quarter of the developed area of the City.
A member of the audience asked how much office space could be leased
at the Hacienda Business Park.
Mr. Martinelli, Alameda County Planning Department, indicated that
there was approximately 600 acres available.
Mr. Fairfield discussed the potential for Dublin to develop commercial
and office space. He felt that 200 acres was a conservative estimate
and that now was the time to be more aggressive. He did not want the
City to have to go back later to try and make accommodations.
Mr. Martinelli indicated that the 200 acre figure was based on an
early ABAG allocation for the Tri-Valley area. A 1300-1400 acre
demand through 2010 was a much more realistic figure.
Ms. Marjorie LaBar felt that there were other revenue generators
besides business parks. There were many good uses that could be
accommodated within an airport buffer zone.
Other comments that were discussed included: needed construction/
electronic industry sites for corporation yards, suppliers, etc.;
mixed office uses; heavy industrial uses that could be used as a
buffer zone; market flexibility/logical progression to react to
current and upcoming needs.
Commissioner Burnham questioned if there was any need for Dublin to
compete with the Hacienda and Bishop Ranch business parks.
Mayor Snyder commented that Dublin needed to keep an open mind and
maintain a good jobs/housing balance.
Cm. Burton felt that the 2010 buildout figures were over estimated.
We should think about developing interim land uses, such as a golf
course, RV park and mobile homes -- let the market determine what is
needed.
Cm. Jeffery felt that there should be certain types of development
such as large community facilities, a centralized retail core,
neighborhood services -- enough for everyone to use. We should
develop uses that the Tri-Valley needs such as someplace to hold large
gatherings. She had no problems with industrial uses, however they
should be environmentally safe - no smoke stacks. The market would
control how much office space was needed.
Cm. Moffatt felt that the 1-580 frontage had great visibility and
should be developed with commercial uses, such as hotels, auto malls,
etc. Strip commercial, mixed uses could be considered - the market
demand could determine what to develop.
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Cm. Howard agreed with Cm. Jeffery. She felt that retail and light
industry should be considered.
Cm. Jeffery felt that strip commercial was not a good idea. There
would be transportation problems. She felt that a retail core should
be considered.
Cm. Moffatt felt that the 1-580 frontage was an asset. The area could
be divided into separate commercial areas.
Cm. Burton felt that manufacturing uses should not be discouraged -
Camp Parks would be a prime location. Environmentally safe industry
should be looked into, perhaps as buffers.
Mr. Ambrose commented that the planning staff needed to focus on land
uses. It would be helpful if comments were directed as to how much
and where these land uses should occur.
Mayor Snyder indicated that we were in a very competitive situation
and it was very difficult to define or itemize such land uses.
Mr. Ambrose indicated that we cannot just let uses occur - that would
be poor planning. We need to be more specific in order to designate
land uses on the General Plan map.
Cm. Burton felt that highway commercial should be considered for the
freeway frontage.
Cm. Jeffery wanted to see the same 75% residential and 25% commercial
ratio as Dublin currently has.
Cm. Moffatt felt that Dublin needed major intersections with
commercialized pockets, with residential development closer to the
foothills.
Cm. Jeffery felt that Dublin could not compete with Hacienda and
Bishop Ranch business parks and felt that additional office/retail
space was needed. She indicated that industrial business parks could
be developed adjacent to the freeway.
Cm. Burton wanted to see highway commercial uses along the freeway.
Also commercial uses should be located on a north/south axis.
Together this would create a good grid concept.
Mayor Snyder felt that it was difficult to visualize how much was
needed and where to put the specific land uses.
Cm. Jeffery did not want to see business parks where the land was not
being utilized at night and/or on the weekends.
Cm. Moffatt felt that hi-rise residential areas along the freeway
would be permissible.
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Cm. Jeffery wanted to avoid residential neighborhoods along the
freeway.
Mr. Fairfield commented that the various concerns presented so far
were not in conflict with Concept #5.
Mr. Hammond described the current traffic system. The Commission,
Council and members of the audience were asked how should land uses
and the transportation system be arranged.
Comments included: a trolley system with connections to BART; an
additional BART station; create an expressway on Fallon Road
connecting with Bollinger Canyon; move Dublin Boulevard further north;
redesign Hacienda Drive; additional bus routes; bike lanes/trails
directly to schools and shopping areas. Some concerns included:
Doolan/Fallon Road could not accommodate buses because of the grade
and the freeway is near capacity.
Commissioner Burnham indicated that he had trouble committing himself.
He would like to see high density commercial along the freeway.
Cm. Jeffery commented that the residential areas needed to be
protected from traffic. She would like to see cozy streets and bike
lanes. She doesn't want to see all grids on straight roads like San
Francisco. Transportation concerns needed to be considered for the
Tri-Valley area, not just Dublin.
Cm. Moffatt liked to see the pedestrian pocket concept and preferred
not to see a straiqht grid system.
Cm. Burton advised that the arterials needed the capacity for a light
rail system. He would like to see two main arterials; one going
north and south; one going east and west; with pedestrian pockets
inside.
Cm. Howard liked the light rail option and did not want to see houses
backing up against the freeway or streets. Buildings should be
designed to aid transit with good bicycle/pedestrian/auto interface
and design.
Mayor Snyder indicated that all roads should be accessible to public
transit and that a joint powers agreement needs to be considered.
Ms. Willits summarized the comments, which included no houses facing
arterial corridors; good grid system; bike lanes/bus/light rail
needed; transportation center concept; and various modes of
transportation.
A member of the audience requested that a trolly system not be used
and indicated that it was not a feasible transportation system.
Mayor Snyder indicated that whatever system we use should be a
regional transportation system.
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Mr. Hammond discussed the park/recreation facilities located in
Dublin. The Commission, Council and members of the audience were
asked 1) how much and what kinds of park/recreation facilities should
be provided in East Dublin? and 2) how much and what kinds of
community facilities should be considered for East Dublin? For
example, should we have a certain percentage of neighborhood parks, a
citywide park, golf courses, and/or hiking trails.
Comments from the audience included: unique community park to give
the area popularity; miniature golf course; pedestrian trails/hiking;
create a focal point (i.e., Lake Merritt - lakes are a valued
attraction); major public facilities (i.e., library, conference
center); create a major park facility in the foothills protecting it
from the strong winds; cultural facilities like small theaters;
regional trail network; amphitheaters; parks should be created in
concert with housing development; make sure there are enough
facilities for everyone's needs.
Some of the concerns included: parks should not be located by main
arteries, prison areas, Camp Parks (i.e., "super" park designated in
Concept #4 should not be considered).
Cm. Jeffery wanted to see adult oriented uses such as golf courses, an
amphitheater, tennis courts. She felt the current ratio for
neighborhood park facilities for the City was adequate. Parks should
also have plenty of amenities, more than just a single use (like a
sports park).
Cm. Howard wanted to see public facilities such as a public gym,
senior center and intermediate care facilities.
Cm. Burton felt that passive open space should be considered versus
active park/recreational areas for undeveloped areas. He would like
to see senior centers with care facilities and living accommodations.
Cm. Jeffery commented that a super park concept could be considered;
however all property owners needed to share the impact of that park.
Cm. Moffatt felt that the lake concept was a good concept, as well as
art theaters, sports fields, large community centers with
activities/events.
Mayor Snyder wanted to see multi-purpose facilities such as
gymnasiums, theaters, golf courses - public/private, post office, and
joint use facilities.
Cm. Burton indicated that a theme park could be considered.
Cm. Moffatt indicated that in-lieu fees should be required to fund
recreational facilities.
Mr. Hammond discussed appropriate uses for the areas surrounding Camp
Parks, Santa Rita and BART. The Commission, Council and members of
the audience.were asked 1) What types of uses were appropriate to be
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located adjacent to Camp Parks? Santa Rita? BART? and 2) What types of
uses should be permitted in the area proposed as the Airport
Protection Area?
Concerns regarding the inmates of the Santa Rita jail facility were
discussed. Transportation availability for the released individuals
should be considered so that once released, they were not just
wandering around the area. Buffer possibilities were: construction
of a speedway, golf course between Camp Parks and jail facility, and
commercial/industrial uses.
A member of the audience indicated that a bus stopped in front of the
facility four times a day.
Mr. Pat Adams reminded everyone that there was one mile between Santa
Rita and Tassajara Road. He felt that there should be additional
transportation available for the jail facility. Public business
entities and general commercial should be considered for these areas.
Mr. Adolf Martinelli indicated that there were 16 designated acres for
a buffer zone around the Santa Rita facility, then 70 acres for public
uses - sheriff's training center, commercial, CHP office, etc.
Cm. Moffatt and Cm. Burton felt that the facilities were adequately
screened.
Cm. Howard did not want to see residential development in the close
proximity of these facilities. Offices/commercial uses should be
considered.
Mayor Snyder felt that industrial uses should be considered.
Cm. Burton felt that commercial/industrial uses should be considered
between Camp Parks and the Santa Rita jail.
Comments regarding land uses around the future BART station were:
need for high density housing and/or office facilities; transit
oriented development; mixture of residential and commercial;
condominiums; and multi-level parking for BART/commercial areas.
Single-family detached housing should not be considered.
Cm. Jeffery wanted to allow high-density residential areas with
possible bike trails. Single-family homes should not be allowed.
Cm. Burton requested that commercial/office and/or high density
structures be considered.
Cm. Howard felt that high density housing would be appropriate.
Cm. Moffatt indicated that transportation access to and from the area
was very important.
Mayor Snyder felt that high density housing should be considered.
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Comments regarding possible land uses for the proposed Airport
Protection Area were: commercial; warehouse/food processing uses;
hotels; industrial parks. Residential, schools, malls, hospitals
should not be considered.
Commissioner Burnham had a concern with using the area for office
space. There were more people in an office building than in a
residential area.
Cm. Burton indicated that it was the noise concern not the safety
concern for the buffer zone.
Cm. Moffatt indicated that it could be used as a transportation
corridor and used for low intensity industrial and business uses.
Dublin needed to be involved with the Livermore airport.
Cm. Jeffery disagreed that this land should be a protection zone for
the Livermore airport. It was Dublin's land. The freeway frontage
should be used for business or industrial uses. She reminded everyone
that the Airport Commission was an advisory board.
Mayor Snyder felt that public services and low density employment or a
transportation corridor would be appropriate.
Ms. Brenda Gillarde thanked everyone for attending the meeting. The
comments and concerns heard tonight will be translated into a
preliminary land use map and brought back to the next joint study
session on December 18, 1990.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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